[@Holbornfitness]

Did you actually need the high days ?

Are you seeing your weight jump up hard ?

Generally you’ll notice fatigue alongside of water retention & weight increase

You will certainly see it in check shots too

I noticed a really small amount, nothing major as it was like this before when I took GH, I had a month or so off. Since Friday it’s got a lot more noticeable now, mainly in my left leg. My body weight did jump at by 1kg in 4 days once I started it which I knew was going to happen and then it started dropping back down as normal from my deficit and what not.

My scale weight is still dropping nicely, it’s dropped over this weekend considering this water retention which only seems to be around my ankles and nowhere else.

I’ve only had 4/5 high carb days in the last 9 weeks, nothing really changed in terms of water retention. I just felt a bit more fuller and refreshed.

I had my blood work done prior to going in cycle, I put them on here and everything seemed fine apart from my ALT levels been high from my previous cycle which I finished at the end of December and been crushing since for 3 months to get ALT level back to normal.

I wouldn’t say I feel to fatigued at the moment and weight is still coming down at a steady rate, not seen it jump up drastically over the 9 weeks. Reduced fasted cardio yesterday to 25 minutes and took a little step back in yesterday’s push session and weight still dropped this morning by 0.15kg. But water retention where my sock has been today is just making me paranoid now

[@Holbornfitness]

I noticed a really small amount, nothing major as it was like this before when I took GH, I had a month or so off. Since Friday it’s got a lot more noticeable now, mainly in my left leg. My body weight did jump at by 1kg in 4 days once I started it which I knew was going to happen and then it started dropping back down as normal from my deficit and what not.

My scale weight is still dropping nicely, it’s dropped over this weekend considering this water retention which only seems to be around my ankles and nowhere else.

I’ve only had 4/5 high carb days in the last 9 weeks, nothing really changed in terms of water retention. I just felt a bit more fuller and refreshed.

I had my blood work done prior to going in cycle, I put them on here and everything seemed fine apart from my ALT levels been high from my previous cycle which I finished at the end of December and been crushing since for 3 months to get ALT level back to normal.

I wouldn’t say I feel to fatigued at the moment and weight is still coming down at a steady rate, not seen it jump up drastically over the 9 weeks. Reduced fasted cardio yesterday to 25 minutes and took a little step back in yesterday’s push session and weight still dropped this morning by 0.15kg. But water retention where my sock has been today is just making me paranoid now

[@Holbornfitness]

Thanks 🙏 for the reply Kuba, what would you say are the HRT dosages? Cheers 🍻

I implement HRT doses when I start diet

Makes no sense waiting until your metabolism slows down then adding imo – I like to be proactive with this and more so use it as a preventive measure keeping metabolism in a good spot

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100 t4

25 t3

Is a start point then check blood work for more accuracy [/quote]

Is they a best time to take these? Like before fasted cardio or just take with meal 1?[/quote]

Fasted away from caffeine as it inhibits absorption [/quote]
Cheers, do you have to take yohimbine with caffeine? Or doesn’t it make a difference

[@Holbornfitness]

Thanks 🙏 for the reply Kuba, what would you say are the HRT dosages? Cheers 🍻

I implement HRT doses when I start diet

Makes no sense waiting until your metabolism slows down then adding imo – I like to be proactive with this and more so use it as a preventive measure keeping metabolism in a good spot

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100 t4

25 t3

Is a start point then check blood work for more accuracy [/quote]
Is they a best time to take these? Like before fasted cardio or just take with meal 1?

[@Holbornfitness]

Cheers guys, I thought this would be the case

[@Holbornfitness]

Things that i wont be making note of here to address or be concerned of.

HDL – for most people this is always going to be at bottom of range or just under it seems however yours a little lower than I normally see – now alot of this is genetic but I wold be upping my omega 3 to 6g daily if not doing so already and potentially adding in 3g krill oil on top.

CRP/CK etc is just inflammation markers and normally seen as high

Creatinine and UREA – again we normally see these high due to protein intake and supplement use so this would not concern me.

ALt – this is defo on the higher side which I would be a little concerned of as you have been cruising for a good period of time and taking full dose vital support – have you been taking any other medications at all or been ill ? How long did you rest before taking blood –

in reality this level is not a cause for concern as this number can trend up very high indeed but its not great that its still showing this much sign of inflammation IMO.

Hormone health looks fine to me – I would always favour E2 being top end of range or just over as long as were not getting any high E2 sides

Thanks for the response mate

I trained the day before which I know is not ideal however I’ll be getting another liver function test done in a few more weeks and I’m going to make sure I have at least 2 rest days prior to that

No E2 sides, I feel pretty spot on with levels at the higher end

Cheers man

[@Holbornfitness]

HEART HEALTH

HDL Cholesterol – 0.79 mmol/L (Low)

Apolipoprotein A-I – 100.9 mg-dl (Low)

High Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hsCRP) – 2.92 ng/l (High)

CK-MB – 11.6 ug/l (High)

CK – 854 u/l (High)

Myoglobin – 203 uh/l (High)

KIDNEYS HEALTH

Creatinine – 107.3 umol/l (High)

Urea – 9.62 mmol/l (High)

LIVER HEALTH

ALT – 96.1 u/l (High)

AST – 51.5 u/l (High)

HORMONAL HEALTH

DHEAs – 4.1 umol/l (Low)

LH – <0.3 IU/l (Low)

SHBG – 10.5 mmol/l (Low)

Free Androgen index – 270 Ratio (High)

Oestrogen – 166 pmol/l (High)

[@Holbornfitness]

 

I’m guessing this is a voice note, there’s nothing there though mate

[@Holbornfitness]

Write out the ones that are flagged up

HEART HEALTH

HDL Cholesterol – 0.79 mmol/L (Low)
Apolipoprotein A-I – 100.9 mg-dl (Low)
High Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hsCRP) – 2.92 ng/l (High)
CK-MB – 11.6 ug/l (High)
CK – 854 u/l (High)
Myoglobin – 203 uh/l (High)

KIDNEYS HEALTH

Creatinine – 107.3 umol/l (High)
Urea – 9.62 mmol/l (High)

LIVER HEALTH

ALT – 96.1 u/l (High)
AST – 51.5 u/l (High)

HORMONAL HEALTH

DHEAs – 4.1 umol/l (Low)
LH – <0.3 IU/l (Low)
SHBG – 10.5 mmol/l (Low)
Free Androgen index – 270 Ratio (High

[@Holbornfitness]

Hi Bud – i cant see results at all – Can you repost or type them out please with ranges

HEART HEALTH

HDL Cholesterol – 0.79 mmol/L (Low)
Apolipoprotein A-I – 100.9 mg-dl (Low)
High Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hsCRP) – 2.92 ng/l (High)
CK-MB – 11.6 ug/l (High)
CK – 854 u/l (High)
Myoglobin – 203 uh/l (High)

KIDNEYS HEALTH

Creatinine – 107.3 umol/l (High)
Urea – 9.62 mmol/l (High)

LIVER HEALTH

ALT – 96.1 u/l (High)
AST – 51.5 u/l (High)

HORMONAL HEALTH

DHEAs – 4.1 umol/l (Low)
LH – <0.3 IU/l (Low)
SHBG – 10.5 mmol/l (Low)
Free Androgen index – 270 Ratio (High

[@Holbornfitness]

HEART HEALTH

HDL Cholesterol – 0.79 mmol/L (Low)
Apolipoprotein A-I – 100.9 mg-dl (Low)
High Sensitivity C-Reactive Protein (hsCRP) – 2.92 ng/l (High)
CK-MB – 11.6 ug/l (High)
CK – 854 u/l (High)
Myoglobin – 203 uh/l (High)

KIDNEYS HEALTH

Creatinine – 107.3 umol/l (High)
Urea – 9.62 mmol/l (High)

LIVER HEALTH

ALT – 96.1 u/l (High)
AST – 51.5 u/l (High)

HORMONAL HEALTH

DHEAs – 4.1 umol/l (Low)
LH – <0.3 IU/l (Low)
SHBG – 10.5 mmol/l (Low)
Free Androgen index – 270 Ratio (High

[@Holbornfitness]

How you feeling from an energy stand point ?

Conteh organ silllrt can go in bin based of these get some proper supps in and vital support in.

Alt will be affected by trainjng and higher protein diet that’s normal – who ever is helping / getting blood work with should know this

I’ve read the symptoms of liver damage online and fatigue and weakness is one but luckily my energy levels seem okay, I have had light coloured stool for a while now and slight swelling on my ankles from where my socks have been.

I’ve got another blood test next week with my GP after shaking then my previous ALT results, hopefully they help but I know what they’re like

I have been told training and higher protein diet causes ALT to be skewed, have you seen yours or any clients ALT higher then usual from training or diet? Just curious to how much higher it would potentially go from this, with obvs a good health stack in place too

[@Holbornfitness]

J nailed it

ALT is super high bud – have you been taking any medication ? Drinking at all ?

Are you taking TBJP vital support ? If nit you need to be taking this year round based on this read

I know which I’m unsure how it’s got so high.

I haven’t been taking medication and last year I only drank twice. Couple of my birthday in October and a couple on NYE.

I am taking vital support now, I didn’t do for the last month or so due to running out. I also got SN liver stack too [/quote]

This should help massively with getting that back in line IF you have PEDs you NEED health supps in to keep your healthy[/quote]
Of course, I’ve had vital support into my health stack since then. It was only one month whilst I was on cycle I had Conteh organ defence instead on vital support. It’s still really baffling how it got so out of range as a month prior to starting my cycle it was in range. I had my liver function results again this week and it has gone down slightly

[@Holbornfitness]

Vital will have you set , you don’t need anything else ontop

Okay I’ll stick to just Vital, how long you think I should give it before re testing my liver function?

[@Holbornfitness]

J nailed it

ALT is super high bud – have you been taking any medication ? Drinking at all ?

Are you taking TBJP vital support ? If nit you need to be taking this year round based on this read

I know which I’m unsure how it’s got so high.

I haven’t been taking medication and last year I only drank twice. Couple of my birthday in October and a couple on NYE.

I am taking vital support now, I didn’t do for the last month or so due to running out. I also got SN liver stack too