[@Holbornfitness]

Cream of Rice, Whey Isolate and berries is a perfect, fast and easy digesting pre or post workout meal.

Thanks for you response

I do have COR for my pre, with isolate, PB, honey, banana and tried it for post workout too with just isolate and berries. I’ve just got to the point where after gym it’s feels effort to eating anything and just feel like downing something now, I do have HBCD in my intra as well

[@Holbornfitness]

I think it’s wise you’re getting readings done, but also levels vary so much form person to person it’s hard to diagnose it properly. Personally when I use npp / deca I lose libido. Especially when it’s that high compared to rest. If it’s ME id drop the npp out, increase test to 500-600 and maybe raise eq to 300. But again, this is me, and every can respond very differently

Thanks for getting back to me Sas

I understand everyone responds different and in some cases it’s trail and error

After getting my blood results back I will be putting test up regardless

If I was so drop out NPP (which I am considering as this seems to be the only problem for me atm) will my prolactin level come down on there own? Or will have have to implement some P5P to help that come down?

Thanks

[@Holbornfitness]

Hey buddy, should be fine but what I actually used to do when using insulin was carry around a cool medi pack. Somewhat like a pencil case with an ice pack inside. I found it online somewhere. Very handy in these situations!

I have this too, you can literally get it from amazon for around £15 and it doesn’t take up much room at all. Also pretty useful if you have HGH pre / post training [/quote]
Yeah that would be handy eventually, I’ll have a skeg on Amazon cheers mate

[@Holbornfitness]

Hey buddy, should be fine but what I actually used to do when using insulin was carry around a cool medi pack. Somewhat like a pencil case with an ice pack inside. I found it online somewhere. Very handy in these situations!

Appreciate that thanks mate, I’ll have a look for something to keep it cool

[@Holbornfitness]

Great stuff, thank you all!

[@Holbornfitness]

If the added compounds are not working for you then remove them both. Stick with test and see how that goes. Then after some time you can add another compound at a low dose one at a time. Trial and error to see what works for you. I find hcg great for sex drive, estrogen is not all bad but it all depends on the individual and their response to different compounds. Like Hilly said it could be high e2 low.e2, prolactin, free testosterone the list goes on. Your body is trying to find homeostasis so it can function, when we add drugs its constantly adjusting and converting hormones to achieve some type of balance.

Thanks for you response mate, I’m going to get my blood work done and then go from there cheers

[@Holbornfitness]

Get bloods otherwise it’s guesswork

Once you’ve got them, report back and we can tell you what to add/remove

Will do cheers

[@Holbornfitness]

Could be high E2

Could be low E2

Could be proloactin

could be fake gear.

Hence you can see why we always recommend getting blood work done

I’ll be getting bloods booked it cheers

I use quanta too so should still be good gear

[@Holbornfitness]

Hi Tom, what brand are you using? It could it be the quality of the anabolic.

Quanta

[@Holbornfitness]

Okay yeah that wouldn’t go well, I put EQ in my cycle as I wanted it to control E2 as it’s cheaper and higher dosed then pirmo and mast causes me itchy scalp/hair loss.

I’ve never ran EQ, is it true it can lower your oestrogen levels? Feel like my skin feels a bit dryer then usually and I have very very slight water retention in my ankles.

I planned on lowering EQ to 200mg and up test to 300mg, see if libido picks up, it’s not completely gone there’s just a less drive then previously

[@Holbornfitness]

Great work on everything

Estro is only ever really too high if your getting estro sides , if not, your fine with it being out of range

Current cycle looks great based on your feedback , I would likely go 200 test + 400

Nandrolone + 300 eq , I think it will be a better look than 300/300/300

You really need to use love heart and heart care , absolutely nothing else on the market will even get close , we use patented pharmacy grade raws ( kaneka ubiquinol and bergamonte bergamot)

For things like lipids , you absolutely NEED a patented raw , you cannot risk those to any old Chinese raws . When they have that brand name next to them, they are pharmacy grade

D3 + k2 same , we use patented raws here

Omega same , we are the only brand I know that actually uses a patented raw

The diff it makes On blood work is huge , I make them for me , because I take 4 times the drugs you do , so I literally NEED the absolute highest quality stuff possible

Thanks for getting back to me, appreciate it

I’m going to take your advise and go with the 200, 400, 300 cycle. That should keep my E2 okay, however I’ll get bloods done 5 weeks into cycle and see what’s what, hopefully be okay to taper up if I feel need be

I know I’m going back to all your health supps from now on, I used to use them but coaches sway you into using whatever brand they’re working with. Will your health stack be back in stock soon?

Just a quick one, how would you manage the timeline with a 20-24 weeks push up phase? In terms of how long to be on cycle of bloods are fine and then going on to trt would you keep calories high or bring down slightly? Then if a tidy up phase was need (most likely) would you stay at trt or have a cycle in place to assist with maintaining muscle tissue/new muscle tissue

Thanks again Jordan

[@Holbornfitness]

I was very confused with the GH too, it was the 2ktopin stuff, I’ve got some genex tropin too which I’ve not tried yet but might implement it after I see how I get on starting a new cycle

With primo I got told it may not have enough dissolving agent in but I don’t know

I’m going to invest in some TBJP health supps and stick to them from now on

Yes I can be a little E2 sensitive, I have slight bit of water retention around the nipple area?? Slight lump but no pain and feel fine, not a fan of AI’s but would you say I’d need to have same to hand if need be?

I will alter my cycle thanks, maybe 100mg less NPP or 100mg less test as Jordan mentioned and see how I get on with that then get bloods again, with bloods would it be best paying for the full works again?

Thanks peter, really do appreciate it