[Tom Lockey]

Never had any of this on Anavar. On MT2 I get super super nauseous it’s crazy. Makes me feel so sick and quite fatigued and super tired also. This is the reason I just don’t take mt2 anymore because every time I jab it I feel absolutely awful I physically can’t even take the stuff. Never had an upset stomach tho just makes me feel horrendous.

[Tom Lockey]

What lab are you using bud? If your test came back at 19 running 300mg a week it will deffo be underdosed test mate

[Tom Lockey]

What lab are you using for gear bro, that test number seems crazy crazy high for only 150mg per week. I would add in some primo bro to bring estrogen down primo is great at this.

[Tom Lockey]

You have been posting here for a while now bud so im pretty sure you will already know the answer here.

None of us cal tell you if this will out your E2 in a good spot. You simply have to run it for 6 weeks and then check.

This is the exact ratio I would use with a client tho if I had 0 history or blood work from them. I would then do bloods at 6 weeks

check these hormones and were E2 and prolactin is

Asses how they feel, how progress is and how sex drive etc is.

We would then amend based on all of this info and recheck in 6 weeks again

Thanks hilly my man for the response! Yeah bro I am gonna run this exact cycle and see how I respond and feel etc. but these ratios seem pretty sensible to start with, low e2 is never an option for me tho as I feel absolutely awful that’s why I’m afraid to use primo closer to testosterone in case it crashes my e2 bro

[Tom Lockey]

Anyone get palpatations on Primo?

Deffo yes mate this is because it is lowering your estrogen lots! Low estrogen causes anxiety this is what I keep getting from primo it lowers my estrogen so hard it’s giving me bad anxiety, heart palpitations because of what’s it’s doing to my e2 levels

[Tom Lockey]

If I’m gonna be honest I don’t think it’s the drug itself I don’t think it’s primo that is causing it but what it’s doing to estrogen that is making me feel this way. I feel better if estrogen is above range and when it brings it way down I don’t feel as good at all

[Tom Lockey]

i feel like i keep saying this to most of your posts but without getting blood work done we would just be guessing.

It wouldn’t make sense for most people that E2 would drop that much from 100mg primo but that doesnt mean it hasn’t for you. Again tho as you didnt know were your numbers are before you adjusted the drugs its impossible to tell what may or may not of caused this.

I do agree tho if you feel shit every time you add primo in seems silly to keep adding it in

Yes bro I’m getting bloods next week and it’s just a strange one on test and mast I feel good my e2 probably is high and much higher than the reference range on test + mast but I feel good, my mood is good, I feel happy, positive, libido is decent. As soon as I add primo I see a big drop in mood and feel pretty anxious and on edge

[Tom Lockey]

365mg is defo pushing it if your trying to drop stress

300 or 250mg total would be really perfect

Cheers Jordan yeah I just feel a pull back is deffo needed what about 250mg test 50mg primo or 200mg test 100mg mast? [/quote]

The question here is which of these makes you feel best and puts your hormones in the right spot.

for me – 250mg test and 50mg primo will control E2 just fine and put me in a great spot. For you it may not.

I then have other clients that feel best on 200mg test and 100mg mast.

There is no right answer – its just working out what suits yourself better. [/quote]
Cheers my man I appreciate it! I will try 250mg test 50mg primo see if this feels good. If not I’ll try test + mast I always like test and mast because it increases free testosterone which feels good especially for libido and sex drive

[Tom Lockey]

365mg is defo pushing it if your trying to drop stress

300 or 250mg total would be really perfect

Cheers Jordan yeah I just feel a pull back is deffo needed what about 250mg test 50mg primo or 200mg test 100mg mast?

[Tom Lockey]

Hello bro, you could add some primo 50mg a week to this and this will bring e2 into range deffo, and add some vitamin b6 p5p for the prolactin issues.

That is an option I have considered also but also I’m not really sure I want to add other anabolic compounds.
Few questions on that.
I don’t think it acts “like an AI”. From what I know its a DHT derivative like Masteron and that just doesnt aromatise. So would adding it on top just not fix that problem? or does it have properties that also suppress E2? [/quote]
Nah bro primo is very strong at reducing e2. Think of it as exactly the same as an injectable arimidex or aromison it acts literally exactly the same as that. I can run like 600mg test and only 200mg primo and even this keeps my e2 pretty low. It is very strong at reducing down e2 whereas masteron doesn’t touch my e2 it acts more as a serm and doesn’t lower my e2 at all so primo is the one

[Tom Lockey]

Hello bro, you could add some primo 50mg a week to this and this will bring e2 into range deffo, and add some vitamin b6 p5p for the prolactin issues.

[Tom Lockey]

How long have you been on this exact dosing for.

I would get bloods done on this mix of drugs to see exactly what is going on.

As usually when E2 is low prolactin is ok.

If prolactin is still an issue then it needs addressing and potentially things in play every cycle to control this

I have been on this about 2 weeks as I changed cycle from 400 mast 400 test to 400 test 200 primo 200 mast I felt my estrogen was a little low on this so bumped test to 500mg this was all of feel. I have always been pretty prolactin sensitive I am currently taking vitamin b6 p5p just started bro

[Tom Lockey]

500 test 100 primo 300 mast next

Thanks Jordan my man, I will try this next and see how i feel. I am just playing trial and error like we spoke about before try something see hoe I respond and go from there, primo is very harsh for me in reducing down my e2 so I have to be very careful how much I am using. For others they can use more primo and be fine for me I would feel like death

[Tom Lockey]

Reliable lab for your primo?

Yes bro I am lucky enough to be using raw pharma. The best lab in the uk atm. So yes primo deffo real

[Tom Lockey]

I would defo agree with Kuba here – my libido is never at its best when on cycle –

You seem to not be getting the key part here and its finding out what is best for you.

i would look to start with 150mg test and 100mg mast split daily ideally or if not MWF – See how u feel after 6 weeks and asses all areas you are focused on. Then asses were this leaves your blood work.

For me I find mast with test when cruising tends to give a better libido as it increases free testosterone levels

Yes my man!! Thank you for your response yes see I’m thinking more gear should mean = better sex drive which clearly isn’t the case but yes I always find test+mast combination increases my libido and seen many people say this too. It’s just on cycle my sex drive isn’t ever that high so again probably come down to 150 test 100 mast see how I feel