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I havnt used this personally and dont know any one that has –

How odd, looks to have been around for years. Maybe it’s crap then.

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Hey buddy! I’ve never used it myself but I’ve always used Rohm labs for the past 10 years and always found it to be high quality and correctly dosed.

Thanks, yes I am using Rohm for basically everything, I just wanted any thoughts on this particular product. I’m looking for a change from the usual Anavar or Tbol orals.

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Taking more drugs to control sides from other drugs makes absolutely no sense

Take less test if you have issues it’s really simple no need to add extra drugs

Proviron even would be a better option over ai – not toxic and doesn’t trash lipids

More drugs to counter act other drugs is never really a good idea

Personally speaking I have been splitting my sports TRT dose for the last two years.
300mg test also gives me too much bloat.

So I do 180 test with either 120 Nandrolone or 120 Mast.
No AI needed (especially with the test + mast).

Same total mgs, so no real loss. And upsides of less test and additional benefits either of the other 2 give.

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In reality 10iu of lantus should be covered by almost any normal amount of carbs.

Remember that there is no specific amount of carbs we eat to say we need lantus – considering the human body will work well at managing a rather large amount as long as output is good and we are training hard and healthy.

Adding in lantus will provide lots of benefits to help us recover better, perform better and thus grow better. This is why we look to add a drug like insulin into the mix.

There is also no need to factor in carbs when you take lantus – it is a 12 -24 hours insulin (more so 12) and just works consistently in the background so should cause no issues.

the only thing you have to be wary of is if eating alot of simple carbs at once as if this causes a natural drop in BG you may find your body doesn’t manage is naturally like normal due to the lantus being at play in the background

Peter just one clarification please. How many carbs at once would you equate to being “a lot” in this context? Thanks.

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Between Kuba and hilly this has been very well covered. I worked up to 20 last year and really didn’t like how it made me feel with every other variable maxed out. So I think 10 is a good amount to stop at personally.

Thanks. So I’ll start with 5IU/day, up it to 10IU after say a week and just keep it there for around 8 weeks. Then come off and repeat 2 or 3 months later (assuming still wanting to bulk). Hopefully that all sounds safe and yet still effective?

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No, start at 5 iu and creep it up

If your using gh I wouldn’t say it’s mandatory but I would say it would be wise to use

Thanks so need need to necessarily time carbs around the injection time for Lantus and just ensure the minimum over the day?[/quote]

No 0’need, active half life is around 12 ish hours but it actually works up to 18/24

Just be consistent my preference is with m1 daily.

You shouldn’t feel it aside from maybe feeling a little more hungry and better bg control – this will mean less inflammation and less insulin resistance over time – all the benefits really for anyone eating above and beyond what any normal human does / should [/quote]
Thanks Kuba.
Yes I will have 5IU with M1 to start and then up to 10IU.
Appreciate the info.

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In reality 10iu of lantus should be covered by almost any normal amount of carbs.

Remember that there is no specific amount of carbs we eat to say we need lantus – considering the human body will work well at managing a rather large amount as long as output is good and we are training hard and healthy.

Adding in lantus will provide lots of benefits to help us recover better, perform better and thus grow better. This is why we look to add a drug like insulin into the mix.

There is also no need to factor in carbs when you take lantus – it is a 12 -24 hours insulin (more so 12) and just works consistently in the background so should cause no issues.

the only thing you have to be wary of is if eating alot of simple carbs at once as if this causes a natural drop in BG you may find your body doesn’t manage is naturally like normal due to the lantus being at play in the background

Thank you Peter. As always, your replies are extremely useful and insightful.

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No, start at 5 iu and creep it up

If your using gh I wouldn’t say it’s mandatory but I would say it would be wise to use

Thanks so need need to necessarily time carbs around the injection time for Lantus and just ensure the minimum over the day?

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Yep no issue at all, they last for a very long time

Thanks

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I Never test buddy

Thanks, I’ll go with that!

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Ok,

FYI I was just watching this on the lantus website, which made me wonder if people do the testing of the pen each time.

https://www.lantus.com/how-to-use/how-to-inject#solostar-pen

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Lantus – 10iu training days with meal 1

Safe

Effective

Easy to manage as limited chance of hypo

Would always be my prefered first step these days

Thank you!

Does is matter the length of time I keep this up for? Worth taking off-time?

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It’s defo not something to be running Al the time for most.

However if your in a growth phase it’s useful throughout [/quote]

One more thing on this – is it generally safe to run Lantus at this dose daily throughout the bulking cycle (12 weeks)?[/quote]

Yes [/quote]
Thanks.

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Lantus – 10iu training days with meal 1

Safe

Effective

Easy to manage as limited chance of hypo

Would always be my prefered first step these days

Thank you!

Does is matter the length of time I keep this up for? Worth taking off-time?

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It’s defo not something to be running Al the time for most.

However if your in a growth phase it’s useful throughout [/quote]
One more thing on this – is it generally safe to run Lantus at this dose daily throughout the bulking cycle (12 weeks)?

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Vials are easier to overdose, pens you can preset the iu amount

Thanks

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Lantus – 10iu training days with meal 1

Safe

Effective

Easy to manage as limited chance of hypo

Would always be my prefered first step these days

Agree with Peter

Generally I think adding lantus at this dose is appropriate when carbs go above 400/500 ish per day

Insulin use is largely dictated by food intake

You take time off when you drop food. [/quote]
Is there a min threshold of daily carbs I need to be hitting before considering insulin?
Or do I just scale back according to my carbs and still get benefits.
Eg at 300g carbs take less than 10iu.