[Billys]

14 weeks out from the Mr Olympia pre judging.

2 more weeks of eating up, then I’ll hand the reigns back over to Chris so I can switch my brain off and he can get me peeeled.

Push today felt great: strength up again. Felt big. Felt full.

I’ve move 1.5iu of my gh to pre workout , just as an experiment to see if it changes anything. Not sure I get any different other then I felt door sleepy after training which would have been ok if I had time to nap lol

Food is high.

Cycle

300 test

1400 deca

50mg anadrol pre

1.5 gh pre workout

3.5 gh before bed

Push

Calf toe press 3 x 8-15

Incline smith press 2 x 6-10

Flat seated press 2 x 8

Dip machine 2 x 10-15

Decline pec dec 1 x 10

Cable tricep push downs 2 x 8-12

Cable underhand extensions 2 x 8-12

Close grip barbel bench light 3 x 10-20

Db side laterals 3 x 6-10

Sasan with moderate test at 300 , you can handle normally so high deca at 1400 per week ? ( without caber and AI ) ?or you will keep it for some weeks and after will change it ?

[Billys]

Big Sas may you tell me whats your favorite cycle in off season?

Best of luck for your show!

700-900 test , 300-400 eq , 5iu gh [/quote]

Bro congrats for second place … your condition was extremely amazing…

Bro in all this you are % correct … higher test give you one other moods and feel better in this the the only trick is to keeps in good ratio and control the estrogen which this make it the eq and if the eq works and its good quality with only low dose 200-300-400 max per week gives you excellent results from the first week and side effects sure ( you must be in check with BP , and find solution to keep it In range if goes up ) but like it very very very good combo test :eq and in ratios 2:1 or such you tell up make a good cycle with very very good results

Bro you prefer it to use it 16-20 week max or can handle and more?

If you want to put and another compound In this cycle will be ok such 3th compound the mast e or primo ?? Mast e at 300-400mg same dose with eq will be a good ratio ?

Hgh 5iu ( every day or you prefer and only train days and raise more the dose )? Gh u prefer it to use it all dose at evening or night after 1 hour of last meal … would be good choice if make it split for example 2iu AM or pre workout or post workout ( if training is at morning after meal 1 ) together with low dose ghrp6 + second dose gh 3iu ( before bed , 1 hour after last meal )?[/quote]

Length of cycle depends on my competition. I don’t like

Blasting and cruising I just taper up into a prep or drop down when I feel like I need a break

3rd compound maybe mast or primo. I don’t decide dosages I’ll start low and see

How it feels

Gh off season I don’t dl everyday. Maybe just training days every other day or Monday – Friday. I like all my gh before bed. I don’t like splitting.

I don’t if I’ve eaten or not I just take it before bed [/quote]
Bro you have ever try eq and primo combo together ?? Until now have try only alone the primo or with mast .. and the eq or alone or now make it with mast e

You have every try eq + primo together ?? Believe that this two together will crash too much the estrogens and will drop the e2 very low

[Billys]

Big Sas may you tell me whats your favorite cycle in off season?

Best of luck for your show!

700-900 test , 300-400 eq , 5iu gh [/quote]
Bro congrats for second place … your condition was extremely amazing…

Bro in all this you are % correct … higher test give you one other moods and feel better in this the the only trick is to keeps in good ratio and control the estrogen which this make it the eq and if the eq works and its good quality with only low dose 200-300-400 max per week gives you excellent results from the first week and side effects sure ( you must be in check with BP , and find solution to keep it In range if goes up ) but like it very very very good combo test :eq and in ratios 2:1 or such you tell up make a good cycle with very very good results

Bro you prefer it to use it 16-20 week max or can handle and more?

If you want to put and another compound In this cycle will be ok such 3th compound the mast e or primo ?? Mast e at 300-400mg same dose with eq will be a good ratio ?

Hgh 5iu ( every day or you prefer and only train days and raise more the dose )? Gh u prefer it to use it all dose at evening or night after 1 hour of last meal … would be good choice if make it split for example 2iu AM or pre workout or post workout ( if training is at morning after meal 1 ) together with low dose ghrp6 + second dose gh 3iu ( before bed , 1 hour after last meal )?

[Billys]

I’m spending the weekend of this weekend off down at my other half’s flat in Liverpool. It took me just over 6 hours to get her due to a closure on the M6, so I’m behind on meals, but I’ll be able to tick everything off.

There’s nothing worse than sitting in stand still traffic on country roads! I love driving my car, but that was just appalling, not to mention bursting for a piss for about 2 hours.

Anyway, Nick and I have agreed to nudge the food up a bit, but to also add in NPP at 400mg per week, so the cycle is looking like this;

Test E – 1000mg

Primo – 600mg

NPP – 400mg

GH – 6IU pre-bed

T4 – 100mg/day

Lantus – 20IU/day

Humalog – 10IU pre and post

Telmisartan – 40mg/day

Metformin – 500mg/day

MK677 – 1 tab AM

Loving the log bro!

1) Do you find 1000mg of Test E gives you more benefits than, say, 750mg or 500mg?

2) Is there a reason you take all of your GH pre-bed rather than split throughout the day?

3) Does your coach base your insulin dosage based on your blood sugar levels?

4) Do you notice any significant metabolic boost from the T4, or is it more for GH conversion support?[/quote]

Hi Jordan,

1. I notice a difference in my recovery, and I feel I tolerate high test really well (my blood work backs that too). I may get an initial spike in blood pressure, but over time it settles.

2. I notice a really nice benefit to my sleep quality, and if my biggest natural pulse (on paper) were to occur at night, then I’m mimicking that. Also, it’s one less thing to remember.

3. Yes, that’s based off BG values, so my dosing of lantus fluctuates week to week (sometimes).

4. It’s noticed some slight deviations of thyroid in my blood work a few years ago running 4+IU of GH, so ever since I’ve kept it in.

Hope this helps!

[/quote]
Bro in you ped stack you prefer to use primo and NPP …

In place of this 2 compound believe I can make simiral results with 500 mast e + 500 EQ together with 1000 test ?

[Billys]

If I understand you prefer to make frequent changes to your food when it’s too high if bloating you or out you too much weight your reduce the carbs and keep it lower some days until go again up … to keep your condition in good shape

Bro in peds you prefer to use simple two compounds eq or masteron enath, have test as base and such second compound you go with eq moderate dose or masteron enath ( off season or pre contest ) , which is your higher dose which you try eq or masteron until now ?? For test if I remember you have use 1400 per week but gives u sides and usually keep it 800-1000 mg the max dose for test …. Masteron or eq you have try it more than 600 all your years of your career ?? ( eq believe a sweet spot is at half of test 400 -500 per week the more believe gives u more side effects ) but mast e is little mild and many person nowdays use it at 800-1000-1400 per week u have ever try too high dht ?

[Billys]

Bro now you are 255-257 lbs … in this weight you eat this meals and keeps the protein ( protein only from chicken / eggs / whey ) at 50-69g per meal ( 53-65 g in egg meals ) – 69 g in chicken meal and 50-63 g in protein powder meal ( if you use performance whey Tbjp and your grams is weight powder ) ,

total you have near to 300-301 G protein only from this sources ( without calculation of oats / veggies / or other sources )

You keep near to 1.25 G protein per lb , in off season you keep the protein intake in simiral same numbers ?? And only you raise up the carbs and fats to raise up the total kcal and helps you for gaining more size ??

I like the simplicity which you keep and don’t eat different foods to confused your mind in your prep bro

Off season I usually eat more protein but it depends on appetite / digestion etc. my best off season in the past I was eating 300-350g cooked steak or chicken 3 times a day , 1 cheat meal a day, 1 shake and 1 egg meal both with 90-100g protein so this was high protein and I felt great, grew a lot

I like simplicity in everything I do.

If I want variety, I’ll go have a cheat meal [/quote]
This is a lot food yess this is near to 400-450g protein only from ( chicken / beef / eggs / shake / chest meal ) if you calculate and the trace protein from carbs you touch near to 500g protein total from all sources foods … really too much food don’t make you a lot bloating and put you too much fat ?

[Billys]

6 weeks 3 days out diet , cycle, training

Training day – no cardio

1- 2 whole eggs, 15 egg whites, 200g oats, 100g honey, 10 insulin

Train- 30c

2- 70g whey, 120g oats, 50g honey

3- 15 egg whites, 150g oats

4- 225g chicken, veg

5- 90g whey

Rest day

60 cardio easy

1- 15 egg whites, 150 g oats

2- 70g whey, 100g oats

3- 15 egg whites, 100g oats

4- 225 gr chicken veg

5- 60 whey, 80g oats

Cycle

900 test weekly

600 mast weekly

200 eq weekly

100mg anadrol with pre meal

25 t3 daily

4 gh before bed

Training split

Monday – back & abs

Tuesday – chest & calves

Wednesday – rest

Thursday – legs & abs

Friday – shoulders

Saturday – arms & calves

Sunday – rest

In your cycle now in 900 test you keep your estrogens in good range and you don’t have problems with eq which lowers the estradiol and e1 , with combination of masteron enath at 600 mg … if you has any issues and your estradiol was little high you start with arimidex 0.5mg ( half tab 1 time per week for example Monday night ) to see how this works for you and if you feel ok and keeps your estradiol in the numbers which u want keeps this half tab of arimidex only bro ??

In hgh now when you use 4 iu believe that helps you this to keep you fuller and keeps you more full together with fat loss work which makes u ?? What your difference with 4iu and with 8-10 iu which u use in off season periods … asking this that believe with 4-5iu if gh it’s good quality works very well and helps a lot and for muscle growth or you believe that in muscle growth you want more IU ?

For example me now in cycle of gh understand that if i go more than 5iu give me a lot numbness in hands all the day and if goes at 7-8iu then this dosage give me this too much numbness together with some pain in hands and make my fingers too much swollen

[Billys]

Bro now you are 255-257 lbs … in this weight you eat this meals and keeps the protein ( protein only from chicken / eggs / whey ) at 50-69g per meal ( 53-65 g in egg meals ) – 69 g in chicken meal and 50-63 g in protein powder meal ( if you use performance whey Tbjp and your grams is weight powder ) ,

total you have near to 300-301 G protein only from this sources ( without calculation of oats / veggies / or other sources )

You keep near to 1.25 G protein per lb , in off season you keep the protein intake in simiral same numbers ?? And only you raise up the carbs and fats to raise up the total kcal and helps you for gaining more size ??

I like the simplicity which you keep and don’t eat different foods to confused your mind in your prep bro

[Billys]

Bro now in your plan u prefer to keep big amount of oats which gives u a lot fiber … is this more beneficial believe from simple carbs such rice / cream rice / white potatoes ?? Because you keep oats in most of your meal and pre and post workout meal

I just love oats. They are tastier and more filling for me and they have a lot of health benefits for gut, cholesterol etc etc. and of course yes lots of fibre which is also important [/quote]
I know bro me too love more oats better from rice or cream rice .. but I don’t know if is good so high amount of fiber in the day … and finally if this too much fiber make the body more bloated

Oats , sweet potato is very good and for cholesterol and for blood glucose from rice all the day which is fast glycemic source of carb

You show that helps you more in your prep in fat loss … from previous times if you eat more rice in your plan ?

[Billys]

Bro now in your plan u prefer to keep big amount of oats which gives u a lot fiber … is this more beneficial believe from simple carbs such rice / cream rice / white potatoes ?? Because you keep oats in most of your meal and pre and post workout meal

[Billys]

Bro all your years and at start of your career you eat so high calories and high protein off season / pre contest ?? Or u has and years which your protein was more moderate and at cutting period u use and some years very low kcal ( for example 2000-2500 kcal ) ?

The same and with peds … all your bb years career you keep it so simple and moderate ( 1.2-1.5g total per week max ) ? … I mean with inject only , now near competition when start and orals maybe goes more up the total mgs ..

I started bodybuilding age 13. I don’t use steroids till I was 23. And I started with very small cycles.

The same with food, I didn’t need much food back then. But over the years my body needed more and more food.

Protein has a always been higher (same) [/quote]

You keep it protein 2-2.5g per lean body kg at starting years ? Yes this understand it for me now with years the metabolism goes faster and the body want more food and you burn more ….

Your total daily kcal which you burn in your day training and steps / cardio is near to 2000kcal ??

Bro now u use 5iu gh before sleep have make any time igf1 blood test to this dosage to see how is your result in this dose ? [/quote]

Starting years a litre less protien maybe but still a lot more then anyone else my age

I don’t count steps buddy. And I have no idea how many calories I burn in training. I don’t measure it. Never do

I trust my feeling on the gh. I feels it’s a very good source. I’ve never tasted my IGF [/quote]
Bro When you mean little less , less from 2g per kg ?? Or you mean 2g per lb ? Because now believe that you use so high protein at 2g x lbs … ( 4g per kg )

Because so high protein believe it’s not necessary in one person which the weight ( lean or in competition ) is 90-95kg maybe so high protein intake is for 110+ lean body weight

[Billys]

Bro all your years and at start of your career you eat so high calories and high protein off season / pre contest ?? Or u has and years which your protein was more moderate and at cutting period u use and some years very low kcal ( for example 2000-2500 kcal ) ?

The same and with peds … all your bb years career you keep it so simple and moderate ( 1.2-1.5g total per week max ) ? … I mean with inject only , now near competition when start and orals maybe goes more up the total mgs ..

I started bodybuilding age 13. I don’t use steroids till I was 23. And I started with very small cycles.

The same with food, I didn’t need much food back then. But over the years my body needed more and more food.

Protein has a always been higher (same) [/quote]
You keep it protein 2-2.5g per lean body kg at starting years ? Yes this understand it for me now with years the metabolism goes faster and the body want more food and you burn more ….

Your total daily kcal which you burn in your day training and steps / cardio is near to 2000kcal ??

Bro now u use 5iu gh before sleep have make any time igf1 blood test to this dosage to see how is your result in this dose ?

[Billys]

Bro all your years and at start of your career you eat so high calories and high protein off season / pre contest ?? Or u has and years which your protein was more moderate and at cutting period u use and some years very low kcal ( for example 2000-2500 kcal ) ?

The same and with peds … all your bb years career you keep it so simple and moderate ( 1.2-1.5g total per week max ) ? … I mean with inject only , now near competition when start and orals maybe goes more up the total mgs ..

[Billys]

But I understand you go with low dose AI …. Maybe 0.5-1mg E3D or eod … maybe this dose don’t crash too much the estrogens to goes very low

[Billys]

Bro you show more benefits from higher dose of test(800-900mg which u prefer ) for muscle growing phases when try to push for gaining phase ??

You use any AI ( arimidex ) or Nolva in this phase now bro with 900 test ??

would be thes same good if in same combination change the eq with 300-400 primo in place of eq ?? Or u keep it more simple with 900 test / 600 primo ( dht only )

Gh u keep it all dosage before sleep with last meal bro. ??

Wish you all the best for the preparation for this competition at Detroit bro

Hi bud yes I prefer higher test. I didn’t need an AI. The eq helped , masteron helps. If I feel I need it I’ll

Add some

Same with primo. If I feel I need an AI I’ll take one. But I don’t think i would

Gh yes all before bed. I have my last before bed too

Thank you buddy : ) [/quote]

Your opinion

which is a good number of estradiol ?? To tell that you don’t want some AI .. 80-100 estradiol ?? After 100 estradiol you probably start to use some AI ( 0.5 adex E3D ) for example V[/quote]

You focus too much on numbers. If I feel good on 120 estrogen with no side effects I won’t use an AI. [/quote]
Yes I agree with this … maybe side effect is not only the gyno … maybe is low libido …

But with AI again you don’t know the number which drop your estrogens and how low goes .. because and low low it’s not good again