[Billys]

Joe u understand any difference at 1400 primo … with the same 1400Mg mast enath in place of primo ?? Or more mast e and less primo ( for example 800-1000 mast e and 400-600 primo )?

[Billys]

Here’s my current diet set up for you guys, quite a lot of info here. Any questions please fire away – supps wise I’m obv using the tbjp supps and they cover all bases mentioned here.

FOOD WEIGHTS ARE INTENDED AS RAW. PRE-COOKED.
Upon waking up
-1 lemon pressed in a big glass of water.
-10g glutamine
-5g bcaa
-Cup of black coffee
-300mg magnesium
-2g carnitine

30min steady pace cardio/pulse 120bpm
(No am cardio on quads)

Post cardio:
15g EAAs
10g glutamine

Meal 1:
40g whey isolate
200g egg whites
1 hole egg
120g cream of rice
1 bagel OR 2 hot cross buns
40g jam OR 30g honey
1 banana
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lower kcals:
40g whey isolate
200g egg whites
1 hole egg
120g oats
50g blueberries

Multivitamin-multimineral-2g omega 3-50mg Zinc-500mg berberine-5000i vitD
400mg rALA-400mcg chromium

Meal 2:
250g chicken or turkey
125g rice or pasta OR COR
100g greens
10g olive oil
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lower kcals:
300g chicken
100g rice or pasta OR COR
100g greens
10g olive oil

30min pre training:
5g Creatine
20g whey isolate
10g glutamine
80g toast bread
30g honey

OR
50g Perf fuel
25g clear whey or EAA
5g Creatine
10g glutamine

(NOTHING ON REST DAYS)

Intra training: 10g EAAs-20g HBCD-500ml coconut water
(NOTHING ON REST DAYS)

Post training:
30g whey isolate
15min later:6iu humalog insulin
1 bagel
50g jam
10g EAAs
(NOTHING ON REST DAYS)

After 30/45min post training:
125g cream of rice or rice
250g lean beef
50g pineapple
5g olive oil

OR
60g iso
5g Evoo
125g COR
50g jam
10g almond butter
2 hot cross buns
100g pineapple

Bro after the meal which u have after training with. Beef … you have another 2 whole meals with chicken / rice after ?? Because at your meal plan you stole at the post workout meal ,

[Billys]

I do 5 days only right now ti save some costs and less water retention. Sometimes I like 10iu every other night when growing. This works even better for me

Contest prep I will go to 10iu every day. Split AM and PM[/quote]

You personally in your weight/ level use 10iu max gh

Believe that 5-7 iu it’s a good dose for growing and cutting phase ??

5 or 6 iu at one dose at night for growing phase ( 5 days per week )

And 6-7iu splitting this 3-3.5 am and 3-3.5 pm for cutting phase

And when drops the peds off and keeps only trt for some months keeps there there gh at 3-4 iu only at night .

This will be plenty for a person (100-105kg ) for growing / cutting / health phase ??

[/quote]

4 iu will work just fine. And just take the gh any time that suits you best. Doesn’t really matter too much. [/quote]
Bro 4iu which you write that it’s fine … it’s ok this dose for all periods and growing phase and cutting phase ??

[Billys]

[/quote]
I do 5 days only right now ti save some costs and less water retention. Sometimes I like 10iu every other night when growing. This works even better for me

Contest prep I will go to 10iu every day. Split AM and PM[/quote]

You personally in your weight/ level use 10iu max gh

Believe that 5-7 iu it’s a good dose for growing and cutting phase ??

5 or 6 iu at one dose at night for growing phase ( 5 days per week )

And 6-7iu splitting this 3-3.5 am and 3-3.5 pm for cutting phase

And when drops the peds off and keeps only trt for some months keeps there there gh at 3-4 iu only at night .

This will be plenty for a person (100-105kg ) for growing / cutting / health phase ??

[Billys]

Bro u understand any difference in gh use of 5 iu with 7-10 iu ?? Or you prefer to use more gh off season(7-10iu ) and reduce the dose to 4-5iu on diet ?

And sometimes you prefer to use 5 days per week ( maybe you mean training days only ) which is the difference you prefer sometimes 5 days ?? With ed ?

[Billys]

This stack is the perfect .. I use it , cover everything citrus bergamot/ red yeast / grape seed / Arjuna / nattokinase for cholesterol and heart , vital support for liver and astragalus for kidneys , ip6 I don’t know if helps for hematocrit I use it extra but the plenty water understand that helps a lot to keep down the hematocrit and hemoglobin

But the fear for eq that don’t use it a lot was because tell that increase a lot the hematocrit but maybe must make it a try and check it with bloods to understand better this

[Billys]

Primo for which reason you don’t like it more because the most is fake ? Or believe that EQ gives u better results ??

Ask you for the max weeks which u use EQ because many tell that the eq works after the 10 weeks … I don’t believe that but you prefer to change the second compound every 6-8 weeks ? This works better ?

Eq gives me better results then primo when growing. Primo / masteron is better during contest prep

Eq and everything else starts to works straight away. If something took 10 weeks to work I would not use it[/quote]

With EQ to avoid any issues with hematocrit you use any health supplement ?? Or only with plenty of water you keep the hematocrit in normal range ?? You have try anytime eq more than 600-800 ?? Or the max dose which you prefer is 600mg ??

[Billys]

Primo for which reason you don’t like it more because the most is fake ? Or believe that EQ gives u better results ??

Ask you for the max weeks which u use EQ because many tell that the eq works after the 10 weeks … I don’t believe that but you prefer to change the second compound every 6-8 weeks ? This works better ?

[Billys]

Bro if I understand you prefer better this scenario to keep test as base ( for gain phase or cutting ) slow ester test at 400-1000 max per week

And for second compound you choose EQ or masteron enathate or deca (nandrolone decanoate ) sometimes or any anapolon and keep the deca at doses 200-300 per week ( this use it only for joints ?? )

And changes the other two compound eq or mast enath … and keep it at lower dose of test …

The max period which use eq or mast enath is 6-8 weeks … And after change it to other compound ?? For example keep the eq 6-8 weeks and after change it with mast enath for another 6-8 weeks … ?? Not prefer to keep eq for 12-16 weeks and after in other phase again keeps the mast e for 12-16 week ?

And sometimes when u use the gh some periods you use it only at night all the dose … sometimes only at morning all the dose and some times split it half am and half pm , which is the difference from this changes ( to take it all at morning fasted or at night ??

[Billys]

Mate now you are in off season period ?? Off season period you prefer to use only dht ( such the primo or mast e ) with test ?? Don’t prefer any npp or eq ?? Or a combo of eq with dht ?

[Billys]

New diet, cardio, cycle
Getting harder. Love it
8.5 weeks out

30 cardio
Meal 1
2 eggs
8 egg whites
120 g oats

Meal 2
300 g potato
250 g chicken pre cooked weight

Train

Meal 3
200 g rice
350 g fish pre cooked weight

Meal 4
70 g whey. Protein measure

Meal 5
300 g chicke. Pre cooked weight

Meal 6
275 g lean steak
Sent from my iPhone

Rest day

30 cardio

Meal 1
2 eggs
8 egg whites
80 g oats

Meal 2
250 g chicken pre cooked weight

Meal 3
200 g rice
300g fish

Meal 4
300 g fish

Meal 5
250 g chicken Pre cooked weight

Meal 6
225 g lean steak

Cycle
900 test E
400 mast e
250 deca
100 tren e
25 t3
0.5 adex ED
2.5 iu gh AM
2.5 iu gh PM

Bro for which reason you prefer deca at pre contest ?? Npp u prefer ?

[Billys]

So new lowest body weight today 233 lbs 4th day today on low carbs. Hitting 150 carbs and easy 1 hour cardio.

Steps seem to be around 12k, and I’m getting leaner on these numbers

Feel flat today and really starting to drag. It’s a rest daf

I don’t think I need a big high food day just yet so tomorrow I’m gonna throw in a moderate amount maybe 400-500g to top up, then take some more fat off for a few days before needing a big feed

Yesterdays leg day was good but did drag quite a bit so I know I need something

At this point I’m really tuning into my appetite cos it’s ridiculously high all the time so that doesn’t tell me much anymore.

Protien is consistent at 350 ish. Fats around 60

Cycle getting adjusted too as of today

600 test
600 mast
400 tren
50 anavar
50 winny
40 Clen
37.5 t3
0.5 adex
2.7iu gh AM
5iu gh PM

Bro at diet phases peds you prefer propionate esters ?? Or keeps mast e and test e ?? And use only tren at fast ester ??

[Billys]

Legs today went extremely well. Still on a run of some cool training sessions at the moment even if the body weight isn’t budging lol

Felt strong. Felt a little flatter then usually due to yesterdays rest day low calories food.

But strong and pumped none the less

PEDS
800 test 300 eq,
Gh at 10iu before bed x 5 days weekly
No AI yet
No insulin

Insulin would help me gain some more, but I don’t like how it makes me feel. Gut doesn’t feel right with it

Leg day
Laying curls x 4
Seated curls x 2
Glute drive x 2
RDL x 2
Leg extensions x 4
Leg press x 2
Adductors x 3
Abductor x 3

Bro with so high test u use and any AI. Together ?? Eq you show that helps you the same such dht ( primo / mast e ) for growing phase ?? Because a lot person tell that eq don’t works good or that is neurotoxic … u use it for 12-16 weeks max before you change this to any other compound ??

Gh all before bed don’t give us any sides .. because most split it am and pm and other person use it only morning and other use it pre workout and post workout!

Find best timing for you at night all dosage ?

Eq and test u use again viogen same with gh ?

[Billys]

Hey Andy, can you provide your exact macro and training schedule ? Greetings

Hi mate,

Training day: P: 310 C: 710 F: 90

Non-training day: 330 C: 620 F: 110

Split wise;

Monday: Chest/Shoulders/Biceps

Tuesday: Legs

Thursday: Shoulders/Triceps

Friday: Back

Wed/Sat/Sun: NTD[/quote]

Hello Andy , in your meals 200g turkey or 109g beef you mean cooked weight this grams ?? Or raw weight before cook ?

[Billys]

Perfect session! I’m very pleased .

Pec dec x 6
Atlantis shoulder x 5 x 6
Granite chest x 5 x 5 x 4
Gym Leco tricep x 5 x 6
Pec dec x 5
Lateral x 7 x 6 x 6 x 5
Banded push down x 5 x 6 x 7
Calf x 9 x 9

Time to kick up a cycle , will go in at :

500 test
1000 primo
300 mast

3.6iu gh still

I’m still 268/269 , I really don’t plan on going over 280 , as it’s just near impossible for me to train super hard over it !

Comp plans are mid/ end of next year based on what I’m seeing , but I will be defo competing

Mate ped cycle u use everyday microdose?? Gh 3.6 iu prefer to take it at night all dose ??or you prefer to split dose am and pm ??