[Ben Derham]

I also completely agree, I would want to see you do all you can over time to try and bring your natural testosterone levels up.

how long have you been in a surplus for and then rechecked?

What else haver you tried to bring testosterone levels up?

were is current kcal intake and what is macro break down?

But apart from Supplement, good training and sleep I haven’t tried anything else

[Ben Derham]

I was on 2438 cal 179P 315C 40F training day 49F rest (without fishoils) for a couple months and before that was on even higher cals 2600-2700 (I’m 18 76kg 182cm) but yeah haven’t got bloodwork in a bit so might go again soon but it currently does feel like I’m chasing my tail year on year and not seeing progress as I should

[Ben Derham]

Cheers guys, makes sense will try it out

[Ben Derham]

You can just try 1.5g/lb and see how you do digestion wise

For me good sign to increase protein was when I didn’t need more carbs and fats given the current body composition toward the goal at the time, but yet I needed extra aid in recovery so I increased protein. Also when I needed to push past my current lean body mass eating for the size I wanted to be vs the size I was

Ok sounds good, what’s a good sign or how would I know if digestion good is it just based on how your feeling after meals?