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I think at 150-250 test , everyone and anyone can look very very good, but also you have the satisfaction of knowing your healthy and being responsible too – which at 47 is so important imo. We absolutely cannot have more people die in this sport / game , when it can be avoided if we are much smarter ?

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I have had some great results with 0 impact on health markers with clients of your age and a little older doing no more than 200mg test and 200mg primo or masteron.

We made sure to be using all the health supplements we should

Kept cardio in etc at all times.

We limited time on to 12 weeks and time on true art to 12 weeks with bloods in the middle of the cycle and end etc.

150mg mg with just put most top end of normal to just above and most should be able to maintain a very good look on this.

However you can make little steps forward if you want more and still remain healthy.

The big however is. – How much of everything else do you have nailed on – Is your training 100% truly and designed to benefit you at your age – not causing over training or joint issues.

Is your nutrition on point 95% of the time.

the reason I say this is if its not then maybe making sure this is all as it should be would get you the look you want without needing to titrate up from TRt.

There are also other healthy avenues – GH , metformin, inject L car, potential low dose insulin – All Imo would if anything do more for your health and recovery and have no impact at all

Just some thoughts

Thanks Hilly.
I value your thoughts.
Do you generally have most of your clients in their 40’s & 50’s training 4 x week in the gym?

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Imo at 47 , I think it’s time to add no additional anabolics at all and focus on looking and feeling the best you can on just the 250 test , which IMO is still ample. I have pulled down to 150 test now and I feel like if I even went back to 250 it would make a big diff. So I would personally move between a legit trt dose of 100-150 and then if you felt like you wanted a period of pushing more , go to 250. Otherwise, your opening yourself up to potential cardiovascular events in your late 50s , early 60s and for what?

Thanks for responding JP.

I’m nowhere near your size and haven’t pushed anywhere near as hard with PEDS as you but I definitely err on the side of caution with health.

Whilst I’m in the best shape of my life at 47 this lifestyle has consumed me lately. I guess that’s what’s needed to make decent progress though. Maybe another outlet like bjj or yoga would work for me in conjunction with training at the gym

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@Jordan_peters

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I’ve been using both for a grade 2 tear in my subscap and they are working wonders!!

Hi Joe
I’ve just suffered an AC separation.
What protocol did you follow?

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Haha, I know some will think I’m being an asshole , but I’m actually just trying to help, by cutting through the bollocks .

– obsess over progressing your lifts across all rep ranges , with standardised form ( this is the be all , and end all, this is all that matters if you want to get big

– take your weight up 30-40 pounds from a legit stage lean baseline , slowly over 6 months

– over that period , use as little gear as you can , but also be realistic , you aren’t getting fucking massive on baby doses , but you just have to be patient , after a decade of use , you probably are going to have to take a gd hit , to get all time muscle

– food choices , there are no must eat foods , eat what sits well FOR YOU, make sure you move a bit through the day to help digestion

– volume , there are no must hit training volumes , what you will need is diff to me and that is diff to the next person, let your log book guide you – stuff you can’t progress , cut it out

– exercise selection, there are no must do exercises . Corinne built insane legs off squats , I personally don’t like the squat. James built a superb chest off flat barbell press, I personally don’t like the flat barbell press. Work out what is right FOR YOU ( if it feels gd, it’s right , it’s literally that simple. You do a set , you have no pain, pump in the target muscle , safely went to failure , and thought – fuck ye that was gd, keep that exercise in )

– these are the core principles , they are so so simple.

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Pure gold

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Great log Nathan.
Excited to start working with you with my training – looking out for your email

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Hi Jordan

Long time follower.

I know you are not taking on any new coaching clients now, but are there other persons who coach online using your methods?

Appreciate any recommendations

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Thanks for the responses