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Push day – weight holding but no bowel movement so probably a few lbs of poop sitting in there, sleep is taking a hit so soon be time to enhance it a little for this last bit of prep I’ve been holding off but now glutes are coming through this is where sleep drops off a touch.

Push day today, usual business feeling pretty good and very ready to get stuck into this week of work, my goal is to see glutes come through a lot more over next 2 weeks then re set a little and push for another 2 then be ready for peak.

On track for this plan to materialise!

Hey Kuba, what are you referring to as a “tool” to enhance sleep at this moment?

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5th place for me yesterday in the supers

Long day not being on stage until around 6:30pm so a lot of waiting around

Upon wake of show day added half an aldactazide and kept water reduced to half normal consumption

Loaded 800g carbs prior to stage across the day with 12g salt

Liked the look but need to improve so time to head into offseason

New training plan in place and will stay on cycle while coming out of this diet phase

Look was full and hard mate, excited to follow all the details as you move toward the off season!

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Last day of the fat load today

Reduced fats down to 140g today to bring me down more ready for the carb load tomorrow

Was a rest day from the gym so getting all good prepped and case packed ready to fly to Portugal tomorrow

Carbs will go in tomorrow at 1350g

Only change to PEDs will be adding in some aldactone 25mg am and pm along with 5iu nova rapid with meals 1,2,3 and 4

Time to fill the tank, let’s go!

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Busy day yesterday

Contacted doctors as have been getting sensitive skin which feels like sunburnt but their answer was it will go on its own luckily today it has started to subside as was getting pretty painful

Check in yesterday saw a few changes to macros

Reduction of 175g carbs and 10g fat so we are ready to load into peak week which will start Sunday

Steps still at 8k

Later leg session yesterday also as had tattoo done for most day but eveythjng still ticked off , steps food training ect

Cycle remains the same will add in some halo tomorrow at 40mg

Glad to hear that’s subsiding. Not something you want to deal with at the this moment. Not sure if you’re open to sharing what the cycle is at this time? I know some athletes don’t, so feel free to just ignore this if that’s the case. Your photos are looking wild man.

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Drop the tren , just don’t need that drug in there at all

That estro reading is a false high from the tren also

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He’s telling you that your estrogen level is being falsely elevated by the tren. You’ll need to get bloods done again without the tren for a true estrogen reading.

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Hey there Haider, just caught up on the last bits of your log, I’d be curious if you could provide an overview update where you are?

I saw the last cycle update was 300 test 1000mast I think. You mention some lypolotics, what’s that looking like?

What’s your diet setup currently?

If you have the time to provide a current state update it’d be appreciated!

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Pull & biceps today great session went as follows:-

SA nautilus compound row x 13 x 12

SA granite pull-down x 10 x 10

Watson TBAR x 14 x 12

Prime pull-down x 10 x 10

Nautilus rear delt x 20 x 20 x 20

SA high curl x 15 x 15 x 12

Dual cable curl x 12 x 12 x 12

Abs x 6 sets

2 rounds posing

10 mins n bike

Back in for legs on tomorrow

Hey Nathan I watched your latest you tube outlining your cycle. Genuine question as to how you manage your pinning with the high ml due to primo and carnitine.

Would you mind sharing your rotation strategy?

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Rest day – decent night of sleep so I am feeling good this morning, wake straight into office and get stuck into check ins – steps – posing – 90 minutes deep tissue and sauna.

Very productive days to be fair so very happy.

Weight holding – cycle has been titrating up over last 4 weeks started at 1200/1600/2100 now and that’s more likely all I will need with shifts up and down with test as I go along and maybe some orals towards end if I really need them.

Right now my lifts are flying and I am changing a lot so happy days.

Are you still using test and a mix of primo/mast at this point in the prep during this initial escalation?

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Rest day, nothing to report I start prep hard out of the gate so I can get very much in front this year

Around 900 calories dropped across both days which will see a very decent rate of loss initially – cycle is going back in since Saturday too

1600 mg total test primo mast – I was doing trt initially and then 400 mg total of test and mast so intially going to 1600 from 400 and given where I am strength wise I will get a lot from

This.

gh 8 iu

Clen 20

T3 25

T4 100

Will document everything as I go along with full transparency.

Il update diet tomorrow

Steps 8000/10000 daily – cardio has now been removed, I only do cardio going up not down

Really excited to follow along this prep. Been following for probably over 5 years on here at this point. This one will be good 🔥

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Correct on the ip6 , keep it am

I take 6 caps vital am and that’s perfect , alongside 2 cals cure coming , and then I take another 2 caps cure coming in the evening . I don’t take telmisartan atm , I just don’t seem to need it , heart care and love heart do everything I need 🙂

Sorry if I missed something but You only take 6 caps of the vital in total in the morning? Or you take again pm? Appreciate your time

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Saturday – woke still feeling crappy but a tad better – have rested all day and focused on getting meals in.

Taking Arilena to halloween party tonight so needed to make sure I felt good for this.

some changes from AJ

Little more food on training days.

High days as is – lantus up to 40iu

2iu humalog in pre gym on normal training days.

Cycle now

900mg test

400mg EQ

400mg mast

Aromasin – once per week

GH – 4iu pre training only –

Hey Hilly, what’s the conversation happening around these multiple cycle fluctuations in the last few weeks?

Higher total mg, then dropped then back up.

Also more test now, is this from feedback your giving from feeling/estrogen? Just curious if there is rationale/discussion here or AJ is just changing things and you’re along for the ride.

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2000 ng/dl = to 69.4 nmol

This is something I’d expect from running 350 mg test personally, your test is under dosed so it makes sense why your estro would be lower as you aren’t actually running 500 imo

Explains why your estro is on the lower end.

Hey Kuba, as in noted above this is my level where 500mg puts me. I do bloods multiple times a year, including with pharmacy test. My levels are on the “lower side” from many others.

200mg puts me around 800, which some people that has 10-1200

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This is always the risk with cycles like this and why they baffle me so much as I see this so often.

Personally I would drop the mast down to 300 alongside the primo and bump the test to 600. Potentially 700 for initial 2-3 weeks to get a faster rise in E2

As nath says it makes no sense having E2 low unless there is a very specific reason

Appreciate the feedback and suggestions here Hilly. I’m aware this is a risk with the cycle design but I was surprised to see this estradiol result just based on previous combinations. Primo/mast effect my bloods very differently so doing the combo here in these doses is new territory.

Agree I want this estrogen to get up so changing immediately.

Thanks!

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Post a picture of your entire blood work what is your testosterone reading at ? Are you using anything else

Hey Kuba, my testosterone levels are 2000 as noted above. This is about double our high end of the reference range which I believe is higher than the scale the UK uses but this is where this test level is expected to put me. Also running 6iu GH, 15 Lantus. There’s always difficulties posting the photos, I’ll try again.

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your progesterone will be elevated as a result of your low E2, If your is a growing phase E2 is important for multiple functions, its cardio protective, sex drive, brain function, strength to name a few.

So my advice (depending how much runway you have to push the cycle) Is slightly alter the ratio of test to DHT in the cycle your currently 1:2 so bring it more in line with a 1:1 or somewhere in between and assess from there being mindful of any negative sides you may get. Always run your oestrogen as high as possible without negative side effects. Unless it’s for a cosmetic look close to a show.

Your progesterone will lower and balance out as your oestrogen elevates in my experience

Appreciate this advice and also the note on the relation of estrogen and progesterone. I was unaware of the interaction.