[Freddie Baker]

i would not favour test and primo for along term enhanced TRT set up as primo is harsher on lipids for most and likely will drive E2 lower than you want.
Personally as J says I would be going for test and mast in ratio that suit yourself – keeping the total load around 200-300mg per week. Based on blood work and how you feel

For your 300mg total you mentioned would that be spilt via 200mg test & 100mg mast?

[Freddie Baker]

I agree with the guys above

Usually myself I cruise on test and mast year round unless on a blast

Out of curiosity what total dose do you cruise at and what is the dose spilt between test & mast

Thanks

[Freddie Baker]

Hi Freddie, I would personally go down to a TRT dose (100mg/ week) until your able to source more product. If eventually you can’t then go with the test only cycle at 300. Have you searched for other brands?

I haven’t sourced others- to be honest I wouldn’t know where to start, other than asking people at the gym – which seems rude to me!

I always used quanta as it was easy to source and I could trust the product, but I can start my search for other reputable sites

[Freddie Baker]

Or just use a small amount of a.i alongside the test . That’s what I would do as you can adjust reactions up and down very fast . So start at 0.25 mg adex per day , see how e2 Sides are for a couple weeks

I will do thank you, EQ has been mentioned a few times- are you a fan or does the hematocrit issues & Significant RBC thickening risk put you off advising it? Especially compared to your “Super TRT” Test and Primo Stack as you called it

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My issue with using EQ here is its usually super good at controlling E2 and will likely bring your E2 to low and then it takes time to get it back up.

Im a big fan just not with low dose test doses for the above reason.

I would drop down to 200mg test per week as J says and look to adjust my dosing schedule to see if I even need something to control E2.

i would be splitting the dose daily and doing it subq plus 25mg proviron per day[/quote]

Thank you for the help-

I’m not interested In mega dose cycles, so just like you and Jordan said the dose of test and the proviron if needed

You prefer the 200mg to the 300mg for test?

[Freddie Baker]

Or just use a small amount of a.i alongside the test . That’s what I would do as you can adjust reactions up and down very fast . So start at 0.25 mg adex per day , see how e2 Sides are for a couple weeks

I will do thank you, EQ has been mentioned a few times- are you a fan or does the hematocrit issues & Significant RBC thickening risk put you off advising it? Especially compared to your “Super TRT” Test and Primo Stack as you called it

[Freddie Baker]

300 test would be enough for what your doing. There are also other compounds.

What other compounds would you recommend?

I’ve always gone off the advise from athletes on here, so be amazing to learn more!

I always stuck to test & primo or mast to minimise impact to my cardiovascular system for Rolling in BJJ and running those hyrox

[Freddie Baker]

Therapy work IMO will be one of the key proponents here of course and making sure you are training correctly for the situation – Not going to heavy – form perfect and being very safe –

Wearing leggings to train to keep knees warm
Knee sleeves
kwang long oil

TBJP curcumin as a natural anti inflammatory and TBJP join in would IMO be very useful

Growth also may help to a certain extent.
BPC 157/TB500 – could well help loads here but I am not sure if there are any studies confirming this yet. If it was me personally I would be trying it but cant recommend to 🙂

What protocol of BPC157 & TB500 would you advise to help?

Are we talking short or long term use & site jabs or systemic

Thanks

[Freddie Baker]

Hey personally not sure if gh would help here, have you got a history of bone spurs?theyre usually common with this sort of injury. What exactly did they clear out?

I’d personally use cure coming, join in & Osteo pro

Bpc & tb could also potentially help here

Yes there was a history of bone spurs on both my ankle and elbow. Althought the elbow seems to be free and clear post surgery!

The knee I believe the surgeon said he debrided it and conducted a <strong style=”font-family: inherit; font-size: inherit;”>Smoothing damaged cartilage surfaces and Partial meniscectomy of both knees

[Freddie Baker]

If I’m honest, from a supplement stand point I wouldn’t be able to best advise however some of the other guys likely will when they jump on this!

However, someone that has really helped Marc Hector through his process with osteoarthritis is raduphysio on Instagram or his website is here

https://www.rdphysiotherapy.com/?fbclid=PAQ0xDSwKdJqFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABp-kl3c_OCa_Ou4W1CRZvsWJii1JOooomHf87RKIpMN0dfYz2rceAgVJ7EfPM_aem_jX4VPnNOLrknP9AdLDxjJg

I think you have a great mindset for thinking the way you do, Marc was told he would never be able to compete again, and has since had no further operations and is now a lot more mobile with a lot less pain, I would reccomend reaching out to him to see what advise he can give!

Thank you so much for that! I’ll have a look at him now!

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[Freddie Baker]

Mast will cause same issues as primo, infact usually less lipid impacting as lipids are more related to e2 levels

Everything you have said above primo does too

Only actual factor is mast won’t lower e2 so you will need to lower test to 150 and run mast at 250

Would you be tempted to increase these doses for BJJ or is 400mg weekly of androgens plenty

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IMO 400mg is enough but there are no rules.

Myself I would be tapering it up a little.[/quote]

Increase straight to the 200mg test and increase mast E to 300mg, that you mentioned previously. Stay on this for 6-8 weeks then run bloods to monitor things?

[Freddie Baker]

Mast will cause same issues as primo, infact usually less lipid impacting as lipids are more related to e2 levels

Everything you have said above primo does too

Only actual factor is mast won’t lower e2 so you will need to lower test to 150 and run mast at 250

Would you be tempted to increase these doses for BJJ or is 400mg weekly of androgens plenty

[Freddie Baker]

It’s all the same , all of these things do the same thing . You won’t notice any diff in the drugs at those doses.

As I said only thing will be e2 , so run test lower

Perfect thank you for that!

[Freddie Baker]

Mast will cause same issues as primo, infact usually less lipid impacting as lipids are more related to e2 levels

Everything you have said above primo does too

Only actual factor is mast won’t lower e2 so you will need to lower test to 150 and run mast at 250

Oh so I would find my cardiovascular health is less impacted and would find my areobic capacity less effected on the mats and running?

[Freddie Baker]

Probably not glutes but as mentioned shoulders, lats, arms.

After using an inch needle for so long, it seems alien that a daily swallow IM slin pin could be as effective! Best part about this site is the learning curve

[Freddie Baker]

How do you suck with an insulin needle? I tried, it doesn’t come out, the oil is too thick to penetrate the needle and even if I manage to do it when I put the insulin needle in my shoulder it bends.

What is the size of your insulin needles please?

draw it up into a normal syringe.

Then pull plunger out the back of insulin syringe.

inject gear into the insulin syringe and then put the plunger back in.

Away you go[/quote]

Do I need to wait until my next scheduled jab day, inject inch then switch to the daily slin pins the next day, to avoid a crash in levels? Or is it fine to just start daily jabs whenever ?