[Hilly]

Totally fine if they don’t bloat you or slow digestion down.

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[Hilly]

So for me your bodyfat is more than acceptable for growing in these pics – oblique and abb lines, quad splits etc so I don’t see the cheats being an issue per say.

What I see an issue is the term cheat and what foods you may be using.

so your eating like a girl for a guy with so much muscle and this tell sme your metabolism is running slow so some higher kcal meals would be useful to speed this up. However none of these should be cheat food that means eating junk. I cheat for me is a higher kcal good quality meal – salmon and sweet potato wedges, a good quality burger, in a nice bun with some fries, sushi and so forth and these will do no harm if timed right after heavy demanding sessions etc.

I feel you should be doing cardio – 4-5 session of 30 minutes fasted.

I feel you should be working hard on growing and slowly progressively increasing your food while trying to keep fat gain at a total minimum

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[Hilly]

So simply what is the aim of your cruise.

to take a break and get your body back to perfect health and all blood markers within range. If so then you are likely going to need around 125-175mg per week.
I have seen that 95% of people can run this and not need any unhealthy Ai etc to get estro etc in normal range.

If the idea of the cruise is just to take a break from gear, keep as much muscle as possible and rest the body so some health markers drop to acceptable range but maybe not within range then anywere from 200-600mhg depending on the athlete genetics, muscle mass, cycle history and the fact they may still be trying to grow during the cruise.

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[Hilly]

I would be looking to avoid any fried foods

Opting for low sugar choices n make this a life style change.

So
Lean meats n fish
Fatty meats or fish using wild /organic
Organic eggs

Adding in a good fish oil

A good fibre supplement

Avoiding processed foods. So all natural stuff

Some morning fasted cardio both steady state and HIT.

Really make a huge effort to be perfect the next 4-6 months n get rechecked.

Then if things have improved you can ease up a little on the above in the sense of dropping the organic stuff thats more expensive but for me this would be an indicator that I need to improve my lifestyle not just do something temporary

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[Hilly]

So weight isn’t budging. Condition is gd. Second week pct. going to bump food this week

Gh is now in. 2.5iu daily

Food

300p/300c/40f

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[Hilly]

Would you say it’s more beneficial to stack with insulin?
Also which brand would you recommend ?
@hilly
@ryanpetford

It’s more beneficial yes depending on level of development also more risky

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[Hilly]

@hilly any advice on the full overview of the cycle?

Your taking 1ml
Of test a week. There is nothing to over view bud.

You don’t no if you need n AI but common sense would have one on hand.

I as I have said several times would never consider 250. First cycle.

Why on earth would I inject myself to just take my test levels to just above normal lol. Pointless.

4-500mg weekly as has been the normal for the last 20/30 years.

You’d get more from a DBol only cycle i think.

If going to inject n take risks you want to see some dam
Gd gains.

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[Hilly]

bigP wrote:

What rice cookers do we all use and which are recommended? I see heaps of different ones and not sure which to get. I cook a lot of rice and fed up of cleaning pans. I had a cukoo brand when I was over in South Korea and it was amazing but they are pricey.
Any recommendations would be ace.

I use the tefal 8 in 1 cooker and have recommended it to many clients who swear by it now as its so multipurpose and a bargain at around £50

so it doesn’t burn the rice or make it dry?
I have used two different rice cookers, both burnt the rice, and made it dry, no matter what water to rice ratio I tried…
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Not once. Ever

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[Hilly]

5 pounds for me is a stretch , even factoring in stress. I would say you likely weighed in an error reading , did you then return to normal next day ?

Defo agree here, sometimes people don’t gain anything or loose 0.5-1lb after a high day.

5lb drop tells me as Jordan says there is an error some were or something isn’t right.

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[Hilly]

perfect, thanks guys!

would you say theres any harm/advantage in eating if you wake up say 2am during sleep. (obviously the meal will have to be incorporated in total daily meals).

no

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So food yesterday was 2500kcal, 300p,200c,50f

weight dropped back down to 198.5lb

Food today will be 2800kcal, as above but with 300g carbs.

Saturday im going to hav a higher day of 4-500g as out for food twice with my training partner who is 2 weeks from finals and will be having high day. breakfast pancakes and sushi it is lol.

Legs again today with 2 clients – working on some different layouts for my leg session going forward.

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GH01 wrote:

@louis-moylan me too mate I try to stick to faster acting carb sources around the workout window, at least I’m not the only one as I thought 150 were high but maybe not haha

That amount is fine mate!!

150g of actual pure sugar is high mate, especially if this is his daily diet.
dam high actually if you see my above post or I would think so

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It is a lot I have just under that amount daily but I have a lot of fruit, yoghurt and cereal in my diet which is all high in sugar! I’ve never suffered any health issues from this at all. Your the expert though so maybe you should lower it slightly GH01!!

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No ones really n expert bar the one who knows there body
Your sugar is fine coming from those types. That’s cos your eating good stuff.
We don’t know we’re his sugars are coming from.
Most will not be like you’res I tend to find n I’m sure you do to.

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Yeah your right buddy! I just assume everyone is eating healthy food haha!

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Yeh see I used to do that before I started at the nhs n when younger.

You soon realise so many people from normal every day folk to high up non body building athletes really do make very poor food choices at times

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Carbs

[Hilly]

Rest day today

Cardio / abs / stretching on waking n first meal not till 10:30

Still working on finding maintenance kcal that manages my BS levels n stops any hypo happening.

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[Hilly]

Those are a good idea but I’d focus More on there use for the 6-12 weeks after than actually while there

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[Hilly]

I prefer a TD approach pre workout.

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