[Hilly]

My recommendation is that you follow the template as it is written.

You can pick which variation suits you best, but follow the plan the way it is written for a block, at that point you will be informed as to what has worked well for you and what needs tweaking

Fully agree with Rich here – Dante spent decades perfecting that layout and running it with countless people so I would spend some time reading all of his old posts/forum threads and all the information you can

this is what myself and Jordan did when much younger and wanting to understand and run it.

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[Hilly]

Thanks a lot, Peter. I really appreciate you taking the time to look through everything and for the very useful feedback.

The points on hydration, salt distribution, pre-bed carbs and moving the EAAs directly pre-workout are especially helpful. I’ll make those adjustments and see how they play out in practice.

Really appreciate the advice.

my pleasure bud :))

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[Hilly]

If they are in true shape then it should be about tapering food back up, loading them were needed and finding the best controllable look to stage.

I am not a fan of fat loading and see no benefit personally

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with Kuba here, I am a fan of the drug especially for those that aromatise alot and IME its not that common people end up with high HC numbers etc unless blood was already n the thicker side. Yes it increases it but I can count on 1 hand over the last fews years ive seen it at levels were we have had to remove the drug.

I would as Kuba states start low as it can in alot work extremely well at controlling E2. For example I need 150-200mg for testosterone numbers 750-800mg. This would put my e2 bang in the middle of normal range which means I could taper this to 1000mg and still be fine on that low amount of Eq

the trick is as with all drugs figuring out what works for you

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[Hilly]

Wednesday – Rest day.

5 meals in – slightly reduced carbs.

steps – 12k

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first time cycle gain of 6lb in 2 weeks is very normal bud. Dont stress it

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Get leaner

Review electrolyte balance

Telmisartan

bang on her – also try a different GH as some Chinese brands hold more fluid than others

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Tuesday – Training day – legs

steps – 12k
Meals in – 5

leg session as very good – pumps were nuts and strength was decent. Tapering volume up now.

Seated ham curls – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 3F
extensions – x 8, x8, x 8, x 9F
Hack – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 7
1 leg leg press – x 10, x 8, x 8F
Adductor – x 15F, x 12F

Scale moving up nicely – body comp is decent

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[Hilly]

this all looks very sensible and accurate to me and should play out very well.

I would however want more fluid on wake – 1L minimum and then another 1L as I moved into the workout.

I would shift the sodium intake around to 2g on wake and then 1-2g intra.

I would also make sure your pre bed meal was higher in carbs the night before.

I would also increase EAA to 25g and have this directly pre workout and then sip on the carbs during the workout.

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[Hilly]

In my opinion based on my own personal experience having a coach is usually the best way to go if you can be coached and find the right person you truth 100%.

Yes consistency is the real secret but for most people especially in this day and age with so much information available being consistent and not chopping and changing things is very hard to do.

Ive coached myself on and off for years as well as worked with some amazing coached and there is no doubt when doing my own thing I end up experimenting and changing things far to much. Yes for sure this has helped my coaching over the years but it has also without a doubt hindered by progress

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Monday – training days

5 meals in
Steps 12k

trained delts/chest

Standing side lateral machine – 6 x 10-12 – last 3 sets to failure
Cable front raises – 4 x 8-10 – last 2 sets to failure
1 arm side laterals – 3 x 12-15 – last 2 sets to failure

Chest press – 6 x 8-10 – last 2 sets to failure
Incline chest press – 4 x 8-10 – last 2 sets to failure
pec dec – 3 x 12-15 – last 2 sets to failure

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Sunday – Rest day while at 2 shows

steps. – 12k
Meals in 4

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[Hilly]

I’d be looking to split it on the high days

10iu meal 1
10iu pwo meal
10iu meal 4

Run this on high days and see if over time the scale / looks / pumps increase.

When I add insulin to clients they instantly report improved pumps and the scale shifts up. Look becomes fuller

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Have done up to 230carb+ 35intra + 26iu now and cant really say I feel this amazing pump that is talked about, Cant say if eel much at all? Is there something im missinh?

Sounds like something is a miss in your set up to me or the insulin has lost potency potentially.

Talk me through your set up here.

to confirm your taking 230g carbs around training window and your taking 26iu what pre and post?[/quote]

Say I pin 26iu 10.00, eat 230carbs and finish eating 1030, at the gym probably 10.50. 35carb intra and 100 carbs post workout before 13.00.

I worked up to that amount of carbs with that amount of insulin and pumps are good but feels almost like placebo, not really “amazing” difference or so. And I always check before the postworkout meal and my blodsugar is fine.

And I have had BS >4 readings a 2 times with this batch of insulin so Im pretty sure its real.

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We’re is your hydration at ?
Fluid intake
Electrolytes

Maybe as you have worked up to it you’re simply not feeling it like you did.

It’s an unusual set up.

Not many people are taking in 26iu humalog In one hit.

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[Hilly]

Looks like the order makes sense based on the priority you want.

Total volume is abt were I would be to for full body.

Just about assessing response from here mate

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