[Hilly]

Thursday – training day – Back

6 meals in
Steps – 12k

Overhand shoulder width pull downs -x8, x 8, x 7F
1 arm HS row – x 8, x 12, x 9F
1 arm machine pull down – x 8, x 8, x 11F
chest supported row – 3 x 6 – all very hard work sets with the same weight –
HS upper back row – x 15F, x 11F

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[Hilly]

Room temp.

Most if not all SLU has a slight sting for sure. Some people find it worse than others it seems

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[Hilly]

I would use Tbjp Insure and Mots C

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[Hilly]

If you have no fridge and it’s just 4 nights I’d simply leave at home personally

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[Hilly]

You would base it as with any decision on drugs – what do you need from the drug and how you respond.

If blood work is showing E2 is to high on this for you then more primo makes sense.

If E2 is in a good spot then adding Masteron is good.

If you don’t get on with Masteron and like how all is going currently simply escalate current drugs.

You may feel your not getting the performance increases you would like and want to try a pre workout oral.

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with Sas here.

some smart things to do to make sure you maintain as much as possible.

Reduce training volume overall and maybe frequency to.

Dont try and diet or if you do not to lean when cruising but if the goal is maximum muscle retention then dont diet at all.

Try not to tell yourself your going to loose size/strength as the body tends to follow were the mind goes

The dieting advice here makes a lot of sense. Admittedly I was thinking I would need to reduce some calories, but the more I think about it, if the mission is max-muscle-retention, then some fluff is part of the mission.

For training volume, I currently follow JP’s Upper/Lower, 2 set regimen, 4x a week. Would dropping to just 1 intense set meet the reduction of training volume objective?

Thanks for the advice.

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Yes it certainly could be a very good move.

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[Hilly]

That E2 read is mad high.

Was it done via finger prick out of interest and sent in the post as it could be skewed.

Tren may well be giving a false read but that’s still a mad high false read if so IME

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Wednesday- rest day due to having Arilena all day.

Steps – 15k

5 meals in

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[Hilly]

Yes to running push and pull sessions allows you to put more volume through these sessions while still recovering and this increasing focus on those areas

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with Sas here.

some smart things to do to make sure you maintain as much as possible.

Reduce training volume overall and maybe frequency to.
Dont try and diet or if you do not to lean when cruising but if the goal is maximum muscle retention then dont diet at all.
Try not to tell yourself your going to loose size/strength as the body tends to follow were the mind goes

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[Hilly]

As above it’s impossible for us to tell you but I think 6-700mg Is a decent place to start based on the total load of other drugs that aromatise for sure.

It depends on how much you aromatise and how well EQ acts on controlling E2 for yourself

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So just got humalog and a bgm, in what intervalls after pinning+eating would you advice checking bg? Every 20mins?every 30 mins?

Also do you check this at home to find your set insulin:carb ratio at first then do it whilst working out?

Thanks!

You really should have some one guiding you through this bud as it needs to be tailored to yourself which is impossible to do properly on the forum like this.

However as an example if you are doing this on high days like JH does.

check BG pre meal 1

Add 5iu to meal 1 – check BG 60 minutes post meal 1 and 120 minutes and 180 minutes. – the numbers should come back down nicely to were it roughly was pre meal 2 but not keep falling. If it does then you need to look at the macros and balance of that meal.

then your next 1-2 doses would depend how your day looks in terms of training timings etc

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[Hilly]

Big congrats on the first show and already looking to make plans to improve your physique for the next one.

As you have laid out makes the most sense to me.

Upper -Tricep first and slightly more volume (4 works sets to failure for example)
Lower

Upper – Tricep first with more volume (4 work sets again)
Lower.

How you lay this out over the week really is more of a question for you and what suits your schedule. For me with being away most weekends I like to train Monday/Tuesday/thurs/Friday but this may well be different for yourself and your schedule.

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[Hilly]

I do potentially agree with Rich here and PPL may be a good option.

Another option which I have done myself and with clients were legs are a strong point and need less focus is put arms on leg days.

Day 1- chest / delts / back

Day 2 – arms / legs

Hey Hilly!

This is what I am running at the minute (Upper lower with biceps on leg days) 🙂

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Im not saying just biceps on leg lower day. I am saying do both your Bi and Tri on lower days.

this way you can put more volume in the Upper session through the 3 body parts.

Hit arms pre legs and then run into less volume on legs as they dont need the focus

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[Hilly]

The nervousness is quite common but especially in the earlier stages of use however the passing out is pretty extreme but not unheard of so you need to be very careful here.

what length of needle are you using ?

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