[Hilly]

if you have gained 3lb you may be above maintenance.

track another week with no changes and see what happens

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[Hilly]

I’m 6 and a bit weeks out from my ever show. My buddy is a competitor and is coaching me. He wants me to have a refeed but as this is new territory to me I’m scared that I need to keep pushing. I will attach some photos of my condition. Just a bit about me
19 years old
89 kg upon waiting

I’m starting to lose a bit of strength and feel pretty flat but I’m new to getting really lean so don’t know the signals my body is giving so well. Any advise would be hugely appreciated ????

What are you scared about?

What is scary about some extra carbs? your flat and your strength is dropping, its obviously been a while since you have had a higher day so add some carbs in and see what happens. it wont do any harm and you will find out what good it does.

Also if your mate is prepping you for free then I would show him some respect and trust his judgement or don’t let him waste his time helping you bud. Coming from some one that helps a few people this is one of the most annoying things that can happen.

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[Hilly]

slow and steady, higher on big body part days and then lower on rest days etc.

Give yourself some freedom/free meals but time these effectively so they are utilised.

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[Hilly]

SO I work within the NHS on a specialist eating disorders unit.

Honestly I don’t feel this is the greatest place to look for advice as the important parts of this are more linked to

psychological previous thoughts and current thoughts

Triggers
Type of anorexia
past history and what was cause of onset
how you have managed it so far and what is working and what is not.

This isn’t what I am recommending you do to as that would be unproffesional to do so on here however what I have found seems to have worked with patients I have worked with on a ward setting that have a sports back ground is.

Increasing your knowledge of the body, how it works, what does what and why. This can make a huge different to your outlook and remove some trigger points/worries.

Not looking at doing a bodybuilding show or follow the lifestyle to closely at all as this is like to become an excuse to fall back into old habits. You will find a bvery high % of female competitors have many forms of eating issues or did have but ar enow (doing it for the sport) lol as a way of excusing there bad habits and behaviours.

Not to counter that during your recovery progress some parts can be very useful of the bodybuilding lifestyle.

learning what your body needs daily before adding training.

learning what training costs you and understanding why you must eat more due to this.

Give you structure and mini goals that will keep your mind focused and driven towards a positive outcome.

Its a very touchy area as its so psychologically dependant on that individual what is good for one is bad for another and then there is the question of is the path they are following an actual aid/fix or is it a cover so to speak.

I would speak to who ever you have been dealing with thin the NHS initially and see what they say (unfortunately they may not link into bodybuilding very well. Any more questions just fire away in here and if I can offer any advice I will 🙂

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[Hilly]

Impossible to say for sure however that’s how I handled my rebound.

Dropped protein a touch and double carbs compared to last week.

so protein from 360 down to 320.

carbs from 120 to 250
fats still low.

kept 1 high day per week in with a free meal.

when weight loss stalled I added 50g carbs = 200kcal and monitored condition. I put on 50mg over 6 months doing this more or less and was in decent shape. you can see it all logged in my journal.

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[Hilly]

Rest day today n I’ve decided kcal
Is going to be lower than planned going forward at 2200kcal.

Today is

Egg whites n bacon medallion

Turkey /chicken n peanut butter

Delhi beef

Turkey n rice

vegan protein n egg whites with Mac oil.

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The body changes as we age. It’s a scientific fact and sometime well studied.

People can all of a sudden become allergic to there dogs, develop hay fever , stop being able to digest certain things.

Or it can occur from damage caused from poor diet etc

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would you say that would be the way to go then…..simply go back to basic food choices for a period of time then add back in and record?

does it need to be as basic as you mentioned I.e rice and white meat/fish.[/quote]

As I said above that’s what I did n do with clients

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[Hilly]

The body changes as we age. It’s a scientific fact and sometime well studied.

People can all of a sudden become allergic to there dogs, develop hay fever , stop being able to digest certain things.

Or it can occur from damage caused from poor diet etc

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[Hilly]

I have worked with several people similar to this n there is no short term fix unfortunately.

It’s a timely process of trial n error , making notes n looking at not just food types but what u eat at certain times n what foods you combine.

Keto can help but not if eating wrong fats or wrong proteins.

Some need a different balance of soluble to insoluble fibre etc.

Unfortunately there is no one that can give u direct answer.

With most clients I take things right back to the most non allergenic Easy to
Digest foods.

I had a client from Europe who had not had a solid BM in years n was always bloated.

We had to strip his diet back to jasmine rice , White meats n fish with just cucumber n coconut oil.

Specific things to look at healing the inside of the stomach. This helped alleviate almost all issues n then work in what to try n add were. What didn’t work so we ended up with a plan that he has to follow daily to be symptom free. This took 3-6 months.

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[Hilly]

My mate just brought me a little joint I may have but worried I bet the munchies lol

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[Hilly]

Shoulders n tri today. Good workout overall strength up here n there or maintained which is gd as volume is increased.

Macros same as always no additional food again lol. Such is the life of short preps lol.

Quite night in watching dumbo

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[Hilly]

Any changes in bottles gear ?
May need deep tissue

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[Hilly]

its certainly one way of doing things but I would not inject test every 10 days.

I would be doing it 3 x a week to maintain stable hormones.

I do like a lower test/higher anabolic cycle depending on the person

Hilly, do you always inject test e three times a week? Thought it wouldn’t make a difference compared to injecting two times a week? [/quote]

From my blood work n clients I find this keeps levels stable more than twice a week.

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[Hilly]

There is atleast 1-2 videos Jordan has done on this.

I cant give advice as you havnt stated why you want to use insulin, what setting it is within, there is no pics to see if its needed, What is your diet set up like?
fasting BG reads etc

all of these are useful and needed to see IF insulin use makes sense and then from there one would look at options and protocols.

I would seriously consider hiring some one or finding some one local with experience to walk you through it or do a load of research and come back to here with a protocol and all of the above information.

One thing that stands out is that there is all the information available in the world online regarding insulin and muscle gain/performance enhancement. I know as I have been reading on it for around 10 years and the fact that you cant find much and all you did find is long acting which is the least popular and least used tells me you are not ready at all to consider its use.

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[Hilly]

why do you want to get more dry?

Increasing an AI and crashing estro is very very unhealthy for your body and bad for gains to.

the only time one wants to do this is either pre contest or pre holiday (for this that like to look good on the beach like me)

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