[Hilly]

Your 450mg will likely put you more than double over the normal range. That’s defo a cycle bud.

During the cruise I would reduce training to allow for more recovery

I would look to drop carbs a touch n increase insulin sensitivity and prime the body for the next growth phase

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Soooo pictures.

One on left is last Friday. After 2 week keto n last day of 200mg DNP.

Second is from this morning. I was 224.5 yesterday but was out after legs last night drinking Diet Coke n missed a carb meal so was dehydrated this morning n legs are swollen as can see.

I’m pleased with were I am tho overall.

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Nothing exciting going on today.

Legs was awesome last night but disgusting in the heat especially with increased volume.

Trained chest n bicep today with increased volume. Boring as always with my gimp pec but bicep tendons felt good.

Been working all day with current clients n new.

4 hour train journey to London means I’m using the time to work lol

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If you are getting gains there is no need to increase the dose.
Remember drugs are body weight/muscle mass dependent mainly

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Is there a formula for this mate ie how many mg per kilo etc and is it based on lean mass or just overall mass. I’m hovering between 260 and 270 and currently doing a gram of gear which is very tolerable and I’m making good gains. Cheers[/quote]

For bodybuilders misusing a drug for off label purposes. Unfortunately never going to be worked out.

I would go 100 mg if I were you

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currently using there tbol with good effect.

about to switch to oxy and then have mst which I have excited for

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This is an age old debate,

what has been stated above is correct in terms of fructose however most fruits are not purely fructose but a mix of sugars I believe so there is still sugar their for muscles.

There has been many bodybuilders over the years have dieted on just fruits and have got in very very good shape and I having done this myself for a 4-5 month period under coaching many years ago from IFBB Phil hernon (this guy was a monster and only ate fruit on prep) I can tell you I felt very good and healthy.

However it was awkward to prepare and what I did find is when switching back from just eating fruits it took my stomach a while to adapt and was quite uncomfortable. it did work well however.

I would say if you feel good eating mainly fruit and are enjoying it then why not run with it and keep a log on here and report back etc.

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I would have a shake on waking with 30g cyclic dextrin or fruit juice.

then have an intra carb drink with carbs and EAA you sip on way there and during.

If not wanting to use powders etc then I would just add carbs to your meal pre bed. This actually makes the most sense.

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you gained 12lb on holiday. Its likely your body I still dropping off some of this.

The holiday will of also caused a boost in metabolism which means your net energy expenditure will be increased and thus burning through more food.

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take them out and eat defo.

There is no chance im drinking carbs during prep when I can eat them lol

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Hi, I personally weigh all my protein out cooked weight. I’m not sure of the exact science but I would personally say 100g Cooked Chicken would be 20g as there’s not really any water in the chicken after it’s been cooked. That could just be me though and that’s how I’ve done things for years with all my protein sources!

100g cooked chicken is 30g protein bud. similar with most meats.

raw is between 21-24g and the varience is due to water weight changing from meat source to meat source

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I suppose you could get more complicated.

vitargo/dextrin/dextrose etc are all very very fast acting CHO and these will enter and leave the GUT quicker than cream or rice.

So for me if I want something that hits my body ASAP and spikes insulin/replenishes glycogen super fast then I may opt for the liquid choice.

if I am having intra carbs then I may just go for the cream of rice.

if I am dieting and I don’t want any rapid insulin spikes and want to eat every gram of food im allowed I may go for the cream of rice.

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some prefer to drink there carbs some prefer to eat them I imagine

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Legs tonight which is not going to be fun in this temperature and its with the increased volume.

all exercises are done with a working warm up

seated ham curl – 3 work sets – 1 added here
extensions – – 2 work sets
leg press – 3 work sets – 1 added here
1 leg hack squat – 2 work sets
1 leg lie leg curl – 2 work sets
adductor – 2 work sets
hyper glute focuses – 2 work sets

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weight 224.75 today , will take weight and pictures in morning as that will be 6 days no DNP and carbs back in.

Weight at the start post holiday was 232. hit lowest of 222.5 not bad for 3 weeks work with just 2 weeks on DNP as my skin is sooo much thinner.

Cycle

2 weeks into this cycle and I am increasing test from 300ish to 550-600 by adding a ml of sust to current usage.

Adex is at 0.5ml and I will be getting bloods done in 2 weeks to see were everything is at these doses before I look to make changes.

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What does your blood work say.

Sounds like a serious issue to me

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