[Hilly]

Thanks for the reply @drdeanstmart

How long should hmg be run ? 3x per week until we conceive or would you usually run this 2 weeks prior to partner ovulation at 3x or week ?

I would run

HMG 75iu 3 x a week
HCG – 5000iu split over 3 jabs on oppsite days
clomid 50mg daily.

I did this when on cycle and I got my count to

9.5million
above average on all else.

Run it until conceived and past the first scan IMO

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Someone on here also pointed out that purepeptidesUK is also stocking HMG now…..haven’t used it yet so can’t comment on quality but may be an option for you to try as well

HMG is a very very hard drug to source and not cheap. I would not be trusting any peptide site with the drug that is responsible for helping me have a child lol.

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Insulin means better storage of your glycogen into muscles as one of its main uses.

This will happen with or without GH so based on this its not a bad thing to add.

The reason people say to use with GH is they have a synergy together in terms of increasing IGF levels which then in theory will create more growth. Plus both have benefits that match each other – uptake of glycogen from insulin – GH I believe increase the uptake of AA – Both increase glycogen storage – GH increase FFA so can stop/counter act potential fat gain from insulin etc.

However little doses of insulin will give you enhanced recovery which will lead to better growth overall. This is why it is so popular with athletes or so I have heard lol

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If you can afford it hydro whey.

However don’t break the bank for it. Just use BCAA and if this is stretching your budget then just eat more protein pre and post.

Honest its not worth it effecting your financial situation in terms of growing and retaining muscle mass.

A nice edition yes when funds allow. Can you still make good progress without it? hell yes

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hello all

I’ve never done a cut phase but i have a holiday in 12 weeks and was after some advice, i use the diet plan/calories off this app, do i simply just keep training and diet the same but drop 500cals a day and once weight loss stalls drop calories again or input cardio? or do i go straight to the loose body fat diet

is there any must do’s to maintain as much muscle as i can and loose as much bodyfat as possible, does anyone no a realistic amount of body fat i could drop currently sitting at 92kg and around 15% bodyfat, if it helps i have a 4 pack when I’m empty on a mo and tense abs

Thanks

So once you know what you need kcal wise to maintain bodyweight I would deduct 500kcal and add in 3 – 4 30 minute fasted cardio sessions per week. This IMO will see a nice drop over the next 3-4 weeks and some positive changes which will motivate you to keep pushing harder.

In terms of muscle retention – I would focus on your log book and still progressing in strength. I would look to reduce the number of actual work sets or reduce high intensity sets like rest pauses for straight sets etc.

Keep protein high to

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Thanks for the Input guys.

Hilly, no I’m not currently implementing any direct cardio. Just the high activity through work.

I’m in 2 minds, as I’m getting fluffier I would like to start a short cut… However, whilst progression remains consistent, I don’t want to jeopardise growth because of my mental feelings towards gaining fat. I’ve always said muscle mass is the number one goal irrespective of body fat levels.

Kind of ‘If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it’ I suppose. I think it may be worth implementing some cardio and I definitely feel that calories can be increased as I’d rather prevent training from becoming stagnant than acting once things begin to stall.

Regarding my question, I was just curious as to why my appetite has shot up when I’m consuming a decent amount of food. (Understandably not as much as competitive bodybuilders due to my weight, size, demands etc.)

Thanks guys

As in my response, it sounds like your body is growing. to Grow it needs food and as you grow your metabolism will pick up.

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Hey, i have a degree in nutrition but to be an accredited Dietitian i would need to do a masters, unfortunately there’s not many options for a masters degree in dietetics in this country, i applied to kings college but as it’s paid for by the government there is a large amount of applicants. If i could do it again i would go straight for a dietetics degree which is usually 4yrs.

There is a post grad at leeds met I have looked at doing.

However based on my current education and qualifications and money earned it would make no sense to take the 2 years out hard study when most average NHS dieticians to specialist only earn circa 30k a year. As I work for the NHS part time they would sponsor me through part of it and I stand a great chance of getting on the course as I work as a dietetic assistant and menu designer for the children with Eating disorders. If I went full time as a dietician on this ward and stopped my private work id loose money.

The field is very demanding within the NHS for not the best pay IMO

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Food and sup update
Currently holding my weight hitting 4300ish kcal train days and around 2800-3000kcal rest days, GH has been 6iu training days the last 3-4 weeks with just 5iu slin pwo meal to help shuttle nutrients.

Time to push to 240 now over next 4 weeks pre stag do and then aim to hold it another 4 weeks and then prep time.

So changing GH and insulin back to how I ran it during rebound and last year as I do prefer this approach for off season I feel.

10iu Gh 1 hour pre gym

slin pre 30 mins – I will be using 7iu

slin pwo 30 mins – I will be using 7iu

Food is now up to 4500kcal train days (4750 insulin/gh days) and 3000 kcal rest days.

Hilly, just listened to the GH podcast with joe jeffery and in terms of the GH taking it all in one go was the exact thing he said NOT do if you want the most out it for hypertophy and he also said 8iu was enough, so just curious on your thought process on 10iu pre gym, and also why you dont use a basal insulin? thanks buddy [/quote]

Why on earth does anything joe Jeffrey say have any relevance to anything lol. I don’t know the guy I’ve just seen his posts from years ago n don’t believe he has much of any real life experience in terms of results or scientific background of it’s the guy I’m thinking of.

Having used lantus only a few months ago n been n advocate of it for a couple of years I think my first use on myself was 2-3 years ago just for experiments I explain why not earlier.

In brief it’s fantastic for health n BS control. In a heavy gaining phase i have found it creates a permanent pump that leads to discomfort , elevated BP n increased stress on tendons. So when maximising growth at end stages not fun. I was using it throughout my whole rebound n start of year.

Could you please indicate the research n information he provides for 8iu being ‘enough’ ?? As in why 8?

When bolus dosing we are aiming for the huge spike in IGF. To increase the theory of cell proliferation. Creating new cells.

I only believe there is so much research on this. Certainly none that indicates the perfect number.

Secondly my amps come in 10iu

Thirdly 10iu is an anecdotal number used by bodybuilders of the higher levels pwo for the last decade or so.

I was actually using 6 n progressed to 10.

You can argue the debate of splitting it may be better. For reduced sides n increased lipolysis this is true based on science

However in children with stunted growth they use a bolus dose I believe. In the very rare studies done on athletes / healthy males it was a 3 x a week bolus dose which is my usual method.
I pushed to training days so 5 x a week as I was pushing into new territory n breaking through a plateau.

All of this is detailed in this log. The literature I have discussed n science can all be found online – google scholar n pub Med etc.

Just Becareful who states what n were n where they gather there information from. As Jordan will attest to there are few as well educated n have experimented as much as we have n have helped people push boundaries.

There are many spouting all sorts on podcasts these days that have actual little first hand experience with the methods they discuss n have results to show either on themselves or clients.

Any questions on the above feel
Free to ask ????

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pleasure chatting to you at the weekend buddy.

Looking forward to the next time we all meet up ????

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Very much enjoyed it mate, was good to finally get some time with you after hearing so much about you from Jord

Also, thanks for the tip on the rice flour, that’s a game changer for me!![/quote]

Glad it worked bud. Digestion n the right foods is my area so any questions you know were I am ????

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Apple cider vinegar half a fresh lemon in warm water … @hilly ?
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That’s what I go with plus l glutamine

On empty stomach.

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IMO yes

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@hilly is an accredited NHS dietitian, I’m a qualified accredited nutritionist and I’m sure that both JP & Corinne’s masters have involved a lot of nutritional work but I’m not sure on the details.

Heyyy

this is now true lol. I have a first class honours in sports therapy and nutrition as well as some additional NHS certs from leeds met. However I did not nor will I do my dietetics degree as it is focused more at working within the NHS and goes against a lot of what I feel is the better way of treating folk. However this is because it trains you to deal with the general population both effectively and quickly which has never appealed to me.

I would suggest looking at a dietetic degree and what it offers in terms of career path and if this runs in line with what you want. To work for the NHS as a dietician or in any sort of football club or sports environment you must have a dietetic degree.

You can then look at doing a nutrition/sports nutrition degree that focuses more on a specific pathway. Dietetics is a field that covers a lot of Ill people and their recovery to health so to speak. The same as physiotherapy.

I choose sports therapy and nutrition as this covers peoples journey to recovering and maximising performance.

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Hi guys, I know this site is aimed for bodybuilding but I wondered if anyone would be able to shed any light on what type of foods I should be eating when I’m boxing. Obviously I know the basics but just wondered when’s best for carbs etc

Thanks

So again weather its bodybuilding or boxing is irrelevant in food types as we are trying to maximise performance during a training sessions. Having worked with many athletes I do find the best approach is a more balanced macro approach – so carbs in most meals of the day and keeping carbs, protein and fats more balanced seems to work better from my experience.

I would favour a 33/33/33 split for all meals depending on your current goal – as in prep for a fight or improvement season etc.

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So occasionally after a hard session I’ll start going hypo – not using insulin at present and I’m probably needing more carbs intra workout as today I only had 25g of cluster dextrin as I’m trying to clean up a bit but what are some good sources to grab when I’m in the grips of a full on hypo? Sweating and shaking and feeling absolutely ravenous lol. I usually do 100g Rice Krispies with 2 scoops of isolate in water and today I also had 2 pieces of white bread and jam and some jelly beans to try and stop the hypo.

I would say I’m an advanced lifter training for 15 years, around 120kg at 6ft and not too fat. On tri test and mast cycle at present. 600/400 mg pw at present.

Anyone have similar and what is your go to foods to counter a hypo?

Thanks.

if this is a common thing then you have an issue with your diet or health and I would look to rectify this. If you are always going hypo post workout then you need to look to amend this. By altering carb amounts and types around your workout.

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From a lot of my own experience and research I personally feel that for most a higher protein would be beneficial and would be looking at 2.5 to 3g per kg personally for all. There is always debate in this area but fact is for those not genetically gifted any big guys and gals are eating big protein.

So I would look to increase up to 2.5g per kg as your next move personally.

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