[Hilly]

Ok so your older than I presumed.

I’d really need to go through a shit ton of info to design a prep cycle n they change as you progress.

Simple

Test plus n anabolic

At 6 weeks I like to lower test n bring in or up tren n add mast or up if it’s in.

I like to pulse orals at certain points when injects have been ran for a certain length

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[Hilly]

Tbh i thought that at first too but I’ve been using the same lab for years with great results

Plus several lads hav got pretty damn big off the same stuff,really don’t want to start doubting

My gear as i even won my class at nabba west in 2017 but those test numbers are seriously low☹️

There is no doubt buddy. It’s simple fact.

The batch of test you have is crap.

This doesn’t mean all
There gear is bad. Obv the tren is good.

It may not be there fault. However speak to them n explain n ask for a replacement.

Shouldn’t be n issue

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[Hilly]

Are you a sales rep for them ? Getting free stuff ?

Do you have pics of test result ? If not this thread will need deleting

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[Hilly]

We would need to no a lot more about you to give you a rough idea.

As a junior tho I’d likely go

Test only till 6 weeks out.

Test / 200 mast n 200 tren only from 6 weeks.

Winny last 2 weeks.

Again I’m basing this on you being young n less developed as for some reason you didn’t provide any info.

It’s like going docs n asking him to give you meds but not telling him the issue lol

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[Hilly]

Your test is was shown to be fake in the first test.

I’m presuming your using the same lab n it’s still. Bunk.

Tren can cause estro to go up. So it’s likely real.

Change lab n retest

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[Hilly]

It’s a healing n recovery drug. It will do this for every body cell – have u researched growth hormone as you would know all this if so.

Sleepiness

Nothing strength wise n gains will be not noticeable ever per say in my opinion. As in you won’t notice they have come from the growth.

You will notice other drugs start to work better n you don’t loose when off cycle like you used to.

Why is this ? Well it should be obvious from your research of what this drug does.

Nothing drastic at all.

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[Hilly]

Long as both oil based , fine in one syringe.

They will be fine IF the injects sit right n absorb well. I.e no lump etc.

Just do left delt n right delt once each a week.

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[Hilly]

How big are you ?

What is bodyfat ?

What level of development?

AAS history ??

How can any one advise you if we no nothing about you ?

So based on that.

Test n GH is healthier

Test n tren With gh will be stronger both in effects n side effects.

I wouldn’t run your gh n slin like that full stop.

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[Hilly]

Shoulders and chest tonight.

Seated side lateral – 2 work sets – up in weight
Cable front raise – 2 work sets – up in Reps
1 arm cable raise – 3 work sets no weight logged
1 arm cuff raise – 3 work sets up in weight

Seated cable chest – 3 work sets – up in weight
Decline cable fly – 2 work sets – up in Reps
Pec dec – 2 sets 20.

Seated toe press – 3 work sets not to heavy as seeing how bad foot holds up.

4100kcal today easy. Will hold this food 2-3 weeks while things start doing there thing n then up food

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[Hilly]

Yeh your numbers are a little bit out across the board.

What are you taking supps wise to help with cholesterol.

Are you getting much omega 3 through diet etc

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[Hilly]

Yes as above your numbers are off.

Also no one can say if these numbers are any good as it depends on slot of factors that are individual.

For me your protein is to high at your weight.

However if your AAS n your pushing things then I can see a reason for the elevated protein

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Hi Hilly,

Yes AAS will be used but at a moderate dose, do you think protein should be dropped down to 1.5g per lb or kept at 2?

With the mistake of calories from fats it’s pushed my calories to 4100 instead of lowering this I think I will just increase my output with some fasted cardio. Also I only use the Fitbit as a guide line it wouldn’t take my muscle density into consideration so believe my output is higher then it says at 3100. Only way would to be see if body weight increases each wk. [/quote]

People over estimate there daily output a lot buddy.

However you are right. The only way to tell is to start out n then work up.

I’d start at 1.5 n work up to 2

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[Hilly]

GBH/GBL is the best sleep ever

Dam good high to lolol

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Hilly that’s interesting to know, from what I’ve read around the subject (mainly on TRT dosages) both HDL and LDL levels decrease but there’s nothing there to link it with mortality
I’d be interested to read any literature about health and dosages at 600mg if you could point me in the right direction?
I’m sure @drdeanstmart has mentioned setting your test dose slightly above your current test levels? But I may be wrong

A simple search will
Bring it up bud.

In regards to dose. There’s lots of opinions n ways to go.

I guarantee you know one you aspire to look like in the bodybuilding world has ever done a 250mg test cycle. It’s your average TRT/cruise dose.

If you want real slow n steady for the next ten years then upping my 100mg every so often will obv give real slow steady gains.

Usually no one wants to take forever to make improvements n get were they want.

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[Hilly]

I guess I could rephrase it as, if I get leaner will I be able to maintain that condition or should I keep what I have and maintain/bulk

You can’t stay really lean n grow optimally.

So in my opinion to you decide – have u got the physique you want. If so get a touch leaner then move to maintain.

If your not happy then look to move to a growing phase

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[Hilly]

I’m not sure why your asking other people this question.

Do you want to be leaner ?

Do you want more muscle ?

You have to no what you want n make your decision from there

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