[Hilly]

Aren’t these side effects normal part of pct? Clomid is known to kill sex drive?

Or am I wrong?

As per my most above.

Some are

Shaky and sick/ill are not

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[Hilly]

Where can I see you current split?

Please post your daily diet, thanks.

If you go to old journals you can see all this info and tons more. The whole of last year actually. It will make good Sunday reading.

I have read it through myself recently. This is how I learnt majority of my knowledge years ago. Accumulating things from advanced people. Seeing what they do n then understanding the science from literature.

You can then apply to self ????

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[Hilly]

Please post your daily diet, thanks.

If you go to old journals you can see all this info and tons more. The whole of last year actually. It will make good Sunday reading.

I have read it through myself recently. This is how I learnt majority of my knowledge years ago. Accumulating things from advanced people. Seeing what they do n then understanding the science from literature.

You can then apply to self ????

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[Hilly]

Up all night sweating but feel
A touch better.

Took 50 000 iu d3 last night so could be down to this will repeat. @drdeanstmart I love you ????

Foot also feels loads better so going to try cardio. Going to go look at getting some new cardio trainers today.

I don’t do myself any favours as always just wear old sneaks.

Took EPH yest twice n doing same today to help with breathing.

As always On Sunday fasting till 11-12.

This next week weights start being pushed n kcal
Stays on lower side.

Only supps being used is my cruise 150 test / 90 mast p plus MK677 was 10mg pre bed going to add. 10mg dose pre gym meal.

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[Hilly]

Go to doctors buddy.

Get blood work

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I am not a fan or Sarms so have no personal experience to offer in terms of pct

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Hilly that’s where having TT baseline before starting any cycle should be done.

Then knowing exactly where a dosage puts you with a follow up test after 4-5 half lifes of the compound.

£25 for a test check from youth revisited isn’t going to break bank either and gives you the valuable data.

That’s exactly the problem though – no one has educated or even showed the logic of why using bloodwork for monitoring these things should be done.

Say for example if you know your own natural production is 10 nmol before using anything ever, then say for example taking 250 mg will put you at say 45 then that is 4.5 times your natural test production and will be supra physiological for that individual person.

Even my own example –

I went from just under 8 nmol fully recovered post PCT to 200mg Test E which brought my level to 41.1 and the changes that occurred were phenomenal (see my log)
That was 5 times my own natural production.

We ran that 200mg that 11 weeks at which we then took it DOWN to 170 for 7 weeks to bring TT down a touch and lower E2 slightly from 281…..
But not once did I stall – everything aligned – diet, training and recovery.

Then 5 weeks ago we pushed it up to 225 Test and 100 Mast E (for to help with aromtisation) and bloods were taken on Thursday which I will post my levels on in my log when they come.

No one should be arbitrarily throwing numbers about when it comes to dosages.

There’s no need for guesswork.

We don’t even do that with OTC medicines…..

If no effect is seen at 250mg and you know its a supraphysiological dosage compare to your natural TT, then you have to start to question where the missing link is as its certainly not the dosage unless you are severely unlucky and have poor epigeneitc expression of the androgen receptor within muscle tissue.

Then after the first cycle you can look at increasing the dosages to hypothetically say bring TT 8-10 times above baseline and move into higher dosages.
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Of course but this has only became so easily available n promoted in the last 12-24 months.

So for 95% of the steroid using population isn’t of any use because none of us did this.

Fact is 75% still won’t out of laziness.

So when discussing these things for any one but a brand new user everything you posted above can’t be used as they have no idea were they are.

Hence my answer.

Otherwise if he hadn’t started cycle I would of suggested your route.

Going from 8 to 41 will have drastic changes I don’t need to see your journal.

Over 5 times the amount.

Some one going from 25 to 45 isn’t even double

So based on results in this thread one would need the 500mg to give anything close to the increase you got n thus those fantastic gains.

500mg puts me at circa 80 if I remember right. If I’d been at 20-30 thrn this is around 4 x the increase. Similar to the increase you got from 8.

Again this is just my thoughts on it having been doing this over ten years n helping people n learning from them for around 75% of that.

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[Hilly]

Surely some muscle growth?

Unless running GH on its own you would never no what is causing the muscle growth.

Plus with GH the way it works is by creating new muscle which then needs to grow I believe.

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So today was about testing strength to see we’re in at compared to numbers at end of last blast and easing body in while not choking with man flu.

Session went ok – trained hard and strength is ok. Aim is to get close to we’re numbers we’re lasr time by end of January to then blow through them Feb March n April when cycle starts

Today’s first heavy leg workout. Not as much volume due to man flu n first session.

1 leg laying ham curls – 1 x failure – very strong here

Leg press – 1 set to failure of 16. Weak here but expected

Seated hack squat – 2 x 10 not failure – strength decent here

1 leg HS extension – 1 set 12 – strength ok

Seated ham curls – 1 set failure – strength good n played with position to get better contraction than previous

Abductor and adductor – 1 straight set of 20 each. Strength good.

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[Hilly]

And what’s SD? Never heard of that

Superdrol

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Okay sweet. I know everyone’s different but what dosages would you recommend?

I wouldn’t as don’t know anything abt you n it’s different for every situation

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[Hilly]

Depends on what your body reacts better to for me

Test NPP mast SD
Then
Test tren mast winny

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How do you feel it takes to notice the effects of GH hilly for a new starter currently on 4iu a day

There is nothing much to notice bar the following

More lethargic
Better sleep
Hair n nails grow quicker

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[Hilly]

I’ve had a cold n felt crappy since start December as has my training partner.

Your diet looks very low in protein n carbs to me based on those food choices

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By way of example on how people metabolise test at different levels. I was running 250 test during. A recent cruise phase and test levels came back at 68 nml on recent bloods. Ive subsequently dropped to 150 as liver enzymes were still a bit high at that test dose

This is exactly my point.

250 only puts me at 49 I think.

Yet my liver is still ok 6 weeks before a show running all sorts lol

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