[Hilly]

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Apologies it came across like that mate.

I’ve seen good results from 250mg alone hence my comment. But as you said, everyone responds differently to certain dosages.

It’s ok my man. This is the key factor.

250mg puts me at 49.

Range runs up to 30-35.

Do I want to go to the effort of injecting myself , risk infection and shut myself down n need a pct

Just to put me 10-15 points over natural.

Sounds ludacris to me , if I’m going through all that I want to see some impressive changes otherwise what’s the point. Not just ok results as can get these natural lol.

It’s all well n good saying stay low n maximise gains n I totally agree.

However id rather 2-4 courses of 500mg only and 750mg with some awesome gains n proper pct than ducking about with barely over natural levels for the same shut down.

Medical research shows no difference to health from 150mg, 300mg and 600mg. Yet better results as you get higher

Why not just run 3 cycles of 600mg with fantastic results

Than 1 or 2 with 250mg for ok results.

Can inject once a week on both 250 or 500. Use same pct but get much better gains.

Common sense dictates 500mg all day n has done to people for the last 20 years

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[Hilly]

I would prefer cyclic dextrin or vitargo

EAA would be in there to

Creatine

Sea salt

Taurine

Citruline beta A creatine etc i would take pre

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[Hilly]

I won’t comment on your PCT plan as dean has helped you with it and knows more than me

And your blood work is bloody good.

Clomid can make people feel emotional. However I don’t feel your side effects are linked to these drugs.

Are you sure your not I’ll ? Plus eaten a bit of crap over Xmas n trained less so look less full.

What your reporting is what I’m seeing in around 70% of my check ins this week post Xmas n new year lol

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[Hilly]

I don’t believe JP recommends sugars. I believe he recommends particular CHO types that don’t impact blood sugars like sugars do.

Again it depends on your diet.

Again I can’t see JP recommending this amount for most.

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[Hilly]

Do a mini diet for 3-4 weeks bud.

However I would also re assess your diet

Constipation should not happen neither should feeling to lethargic

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[Hilly]

Will you be taking the lantus daily in the bulk or just on days with the gh?

Just GH days

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[Hilly]

No blood test done so I understand it’s hard to gage where I was at with 250mg. I also understand that most people think for the length of time on cycle I must be thinking take the gear it’s a magic supplement I will get big and half ass training. I have trained for 7 years making slow but decent progress all natural did a fair bit off reading up before I decided to cycle granted I should have got bloods done. I train every morning at 5 mon-fri my diet I decent if anything I have been adding extra calories in to add more size. At 250mg there wasn’t much happening I still felt on a plateau shortly after moving to 500mg I am seeing weekly progress others are noticing it also I know now being on 20 weeks is maybe to long but when still making good progress more so now near the end of the cycle do I continue if I could go back I would have started on 500mg from week 1

Ok so based on this I would run another 8-10 weeks.

I would get bloods done now.

I hope more see this n realise 250mg a week only for a cycle is ludacris for most

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[Hilly]

Nothing but time will really help with AC joint separation.

Tb500 or bpc may help you recover from the swelling n soreness better.

However when an AC joint is separated it doesn’t spring back. It’s there permanently.

I used to see it a lot when I worked as sports therapist at 2 rugby clubs

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[Hilly]

I would also up the dose a little. 300-500mg.

200mg is HRT dose.

Why go to the unpleasant point of injecting yourself n shutting yourself din to just have high normal range test.

Not sure why people are big on this 250mg test only cycles on here lately.

3-5 months time every one be saying they unhappy they didn’t change like they thought they would.

No shock as your still in normal ranges lol

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[Hilly]

If it hasn’t gone down in a week go docs tho

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[Hilly]

Could be as above.

May if just not injected into the belly of a muscle but edge or inbetween so it will swell a little

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I wouldn’t run at same time for most unless need to for final stages of stepping on stage.

I would cycle them. It doesn’t have to be even durations. Use longer cycles on the one you feel better on

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[Hilly]

Agreed with the above. Get blood work.

I would go to 500mg for first cycle personally.

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[Hilly]

There was no ill intent meant by that mate. I agree, everyone can react differently to different amounts. Like you said before, lots of opinions and more than one way to skin a cat.

If he’s getting results on 500 then wouldn’t you stay on that and milk it for all it’s worth until the progress stalls?

That’s a possibility to of course.

Calling my advice reckless is. Little ill intent bud. Considering what I said made more sense than what u did.

Highly likely his gear is under dosed COs he got nothing from 250 isn’t a good statement at all ????

I made recommendations based on the info given and stand by them.

Blood tests as dean states are the most logical step but no one seems to do this or they wouldn’t make these posts

As they would know answers from the blood test already

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[Hilly]

Really depends on the time you train and diet and amount of slin but you didn’t provide any of this info.

You can jab Humalog IM to make it hit quicker and out quicker this is what I do.

I would just have a pre shot no post shot and take in carbs pre/intra/post and post post pre bed.

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