[Hilly]

I doubt it on the GH and Reta but cant confirm from personal experience. Those that I know who have ran it while using GH still get he hunger lowering.

IME no no DHB does not

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[Hilly]

I agree with Niki in all aspects.

I would usually always get some one to just run 300mg test for there first cycle or the first part of it at least – Run bloods at week 6 and asses what is going on in all areas of feedback – both via bloods/progress and how you feel etc. you can then make an accurate decision if anything needs to be changed/adjusted etc.

I suggest reading the PCT sticky in the health section for more accurate information on this also as I would not run it like this. Full details are there

Defo would not have the Adex in there randomly at 0.5mg EOD, this will likely cause issues unless blood work confirms you need some

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[Hilly]

I would drop the adex down to just twice a week and re asses. Your just trying to find the perfect spot for you to keep E2 at

Thanks for the reply, Hilly!

If the Arimidex package insert says that it cannot be divided, it doesn’t make sense to quarter it, does it? That would mean running the risk of the active ingredient not being evenly distributed in the tablet.

Another theoretical question:

If I had a testosterone level of 1115 ng/dl and estradiol of 74.4 pg/ml with 15 mg subcutaneously per day, isn’t that actually normal?

According to the lab, the range for testosterone goes up to 836 and for estradiol up to 43.2.

I’m surprised that there are people who have testosterone levels above 1500 with their stack but are within the range for estradiol. Isn’t that actually atypical, because both should increase with a higher dose?

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Im just suggesting reducing the frequency of the Adex – personally I prefer to dose twice a week instead of every so many days but you could try every 4th day.

Im confused about the next part – if you E2 range goes up to 43.2 and yours was at 74.4 then this is not normal levels of E2 and you are out of range. So not normal at all. Its elevated hence the side effects.

your last point again doesnt make sense to me – your surprised people have a test level of 1500 or over with E2 in range yet your not far off this with E2 in range due to Arimidex use to control E2. Therefore those that have higher test levels with E2 still in range with be doing something as you are and using something to control E2 or they are someone that genetically doesnt aromatise much as this is the case with some people.

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[Hilly]

Thurs – Training day

2 x dog walks done

6 meals in –

Trained delts/arms

Standing DB laterals -x 8, x 8, x 6F with 3 drop sets
HS shoulder press with a dead stop – x 15, x 15 x 12 – nothing to failure
1 arm cable lateral – x 10f, x 16F

Dual cable curl – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 9F
Crucifix PD – x 8, x 8, x 7F, x 11F
Standing Db curl – x 8, x 8, x 7F
Flat bar PD – x 8, x 8, x 6F
Preacher curl – x 19F
tri extension machine – x 17F

Strength was very good today – no real niggles at all.

lets see if scale is up 2moro

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[Hilly]

Clen works very well, is very commonly used and the only read side effect is hand jitters and a potential knock on sleep for some.

Its a solid move Imo and although I do rate SLU it defo won’t work IME as well as clen does

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[Hilly]

I would drop the adex down to just twice a week and re asses. Your just trying to find the perfect spot for you to keep E2 at

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[Hilly]

So far with others I have seen

Major improvements in LDL and some in HDL
improvement in kidney readings
Reduction in hunger

some have seen improved insulin sensitivity 1-2 others not

Long terms we just dont know yet

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[Hilly]

As I said – you will need to run it and asses how you feel plus what blood work says – its just a guessing game until then

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[Hilly]

Agree with the above – totally fine

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[Hilly]

I would inject 250-500mcg daily into the pecs for 6 weeks – this will directly help the pec and may well have a cross over into the sacrum area etc if its going to help at all which I feel it may not but this is the best way of figuring it out IMO

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[Hilly]

Wed – leg day
2 x 30 minute dog walks done plus 2 hours in park with Arilena this morning
6 meals will go in

Superb leg session – Strength was class.

lay ham curls – x 8, x 13f, x 8F, x 16F
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 9f, x 8F,
hack squat – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 8 – strength was superb and movement felt great so ended up sticking with this for more sets
1 leg hip press -x 8, x 9F
Dual leg hip press – 1 x 21F
1 leg ham curl – x 13F, x 9F

Hoist chest press -x8, x 8, x 9F, x 13F

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[Hilly]

If you’re truly not recovering from this I would suggest a trip to doctor’s as your hormones may not be working right.

As at 16 yrs old this should be no issues.

You’re doing 15 sets per workout. Should be no issues especially with optimising recovery outside of gym

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[Hilly]

Look at it this way.

You want to run full body
You have 90 minutes.

Make it work
Train hard
Focus on progress.

How long it takes others is irrelevant

When I did FB my Monday session was 60 minutes simply because that’s all the time I have.

Others were 90-100 minutes but may tags 120 if training with some one else

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[Hilly]

Personally I would finish the current week on ppl.

Start the FB the following week. Works better for my dairy with tracking etc

But that’s as complicated as it gets lol

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[Hilly]

More you eat , unsurprisingly the more you need the toilet .

Yeh I think it’s pretty logical to expect more waste when eating more food.

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