[Hilly]

You look pretty lean here – i would still want a little bit more off and to see that midsection leaner – as long as performance in gym is fine and your food focus etc isn’t crazy I would keep going and drop another 2-3kg – youll look nuts there and be in a superb spot

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[Hilly]

its a personal preference based on blood work and how you feel.

Some people need just 30mg primo for 200mg test such as myself – however as per other threads even low dose primo tends to impact lipids more so than mast so some may favour mast – some may simply have to use primo no matter what. Others may not be able to source either and use low dose Adex.

for me I would always start – 150mg test and 100mg mast -get bloods done at week 6 – Asses how you feel and any sides and then make changes to find what works best for you and what you as an individual need

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[Hilly]

Thurs – Cardio – 30 minutes on wake

6 meals to go in – 1 is out for food for Sarah Bday.

Trained delts/chest/Tri

Lateral machine – x 8, x8, x 8, x 7F – felt good here
narrow trip shoulder press – x 15F, x 12F
1 arm cable laterals x 15F, x 14F

Rope PD – x 8, x 8, x 9F
Tri extension machine – x 10, x 10, x 8F

Decline chest press – x 8, x 8, x 4F with a drop set
Dips – x 8, x8, x 9F

Abs – 3 x hang leg raises

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[Hilly]

I agree with the above – is it necessary no but it will likely not interfere with anything else and IMO doesnt hit recovery hard so will bring more good than potential issues

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[Hilly]

personally i would move your bicep work to lower days.

I would then say all is fine if this is laid out to suit areas you want to focus on and you can recover from this volume –

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Hello mate totally agree with Clare

I personnally do btw 12gr and 16gr salt per day, by the taste.

I also drink 6L per day all year, my body just ask for it.

Already tried to reduce both, and I was feeling frustrated.

Also been monitoring my minerals balance and with 6L and 12gr salt… my body is balanced.

So I can confirm what Clare said. Body knows what you need and when.

What could be interesting though would be to note at which moment you feel bloated on the face into your day.

Note the time, the day, after which meal/activity etc and do that everytime it’s happening

And try to see if there is a common thing between the moments.

Could appear also after a very heavy carbs meal or many other reasons

I feel most bloated or I look most bloated in the morning. When I have drank 0,5l water with 2g salt and taken 800mg magnesium. [/quote]

In this case the obvious answer is to reduce this.

Drop magnesium down to 400mg

Salt to 1g

I would also lower your total intake Down to around 9-10g [/quote]

Could high magnesium potentially lead to bloating?[/quote]
I would seriously doubt it but I would reduce all initially and then work from there

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[Hilly]

so firstly a big well done on progress mate. Based on how much fat you had to loose you have done very well and its just your body fighting you now.

This is were a 3-4 week diet break or even a touch longer would be a great move IMO.

bring food up to maintenance level first – reduce cardio down a tad and sit there for 1-2 weeks. Asses that the scale does and how you feel. I would then make a small increase in kcal for 2-4 weeks before looking to come back down and see how things go.

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[Hilly]

In your situation I would be pushing for 6-10lb a month –

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I would be a fan of doing so if legit peeled and get on well with anadrol

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Im with kuba here – i dont over think it. 200mg of masteron is 200mg masteron to me regardless of ester

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[Hilly]

any were IM

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[Hilly]

i would not favour test and primo for along term enhanced TRT set up as primo is harsher on lipids for most and likely will drive E2 lower than you want.

Personally as J says I would be going for test and mast in ratio that suit yourself – keeping the total load around 200-300mg per week. Based on blood work and how you feel

For your 300mg total you mentioned would that be spilt via 200mg test & 100mg mast?

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for me personally yes but you need to find what works best for you

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Re adjusting training

Monday. -Delts/tri/chest/
Wed – legs/biceps/calfs
Thurs or fri – Delts/tri/chest depending on work
Sat – back/biceps/calfs –

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[Hilly]

Wed – 6 meals in – No cardio done but this Am we were in the park for 2-3 hours so lots of steps down first thing.

Trained legs/Biceps. First session back in 6 days

seated ham curls -x 8, x 8F
Extensions – x 8, x 12F
Pendulum – x 8, x 8
leg press with a dead stop – x 15, x 12, x 10F
Lay ham curl – x 8, x 7F

1 arm HS bicep curl – x 10, x 10, x 9F
Preacher curl machine – x 10, x 10, x 6F

lower in volume as easing back in – food still on the lower side as I drop any fluid off and bring weight back down. Back away n 2 weeks so this next 7 days is on coming back down and then im slowly tapering food up into next trip away and then we move to growing from there

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[Hilly]

Thanks for your answer. But let me tell you, when I Trained with yates, Flex wheeler, Chris Cormnier, and some old school pros ( i’m a little old ) the prioritywas to recuperate the muscle, and dont repeat again the same muscle. So recuperation training ppl , UL, don’t let the muscle rest. But well is only a opinion. Thanks.

Honestly do what you prefer and enjoy! The reason people do ppl and upper lower is to hit the body parts more frequently. So more frequency for the majority or people will serve you well

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Priorities change
Fashions change

I’m
Pretty sure Arnold trained way different to Dorian n Ronnie trained different to Dorian

The science continues to tell us the same stuff.

Effort is key

Training to failure or very close is key

Volume must be regulated. For most 18 sets per week is better than 9-10 sets.

Once per week or twice a week may or may not matter much.

Which brings us back to – focus on what you enjoy not others

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