[Hilly]

Wed – 17k steps done

carbs 150g

trained arms/legs – still working around tendon issue.

Rope push downs – 6 x 12-15 – only last one to failure
1 arm nautilus curl – 6 x 12-15 – only last one to failure

calfs – 4 x 12-15 – last 2 to failure

1 leg hamstring curl – x 8, x 8, x 8F, x 12F
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 13F, x 9F – up in reps both sets
squat machine – x 6, x6, x 10F – up in reps
adductor – x 12, x 18F – up in reps.

good workout overall, more physio work today on the ongoing tendon issues

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[Hilly]

It’s very hard to answer here. If progress has been great and still is then it’s hard to suggest a change. Remember others you’re looking at may simply have better genetics.

However on the flip side some coaches do just work within 1 similar approach no matter what and for some clients this works great while others get bored.

Reality is we have all worked with different coaches and it’s very normal in any situation like this to fancy a change and something a change can be very needed and warranted. Other times not so much.

Speak to your coach , I’ve discussed this with clients and agreed / recommend they try some one else. Almost all came back after a while.

However maybe also discuss a change in approach with the coach. If he’s not keen on it or feels he only works best in one way n you feel that has become tedious then it may well be time to move on

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[Hilly]

IGF production is stimulated during exercise locally and peaks after training.

Pre training theory – bigger spike locally than the muscle produces

Post training theory – make the natural spike bigger when it’s bigger as surely that’s the key time.

Pre n post theory – both above make sense and no one has the actual answer so fuck it I’ll do both.

I’m sure others may have a more complex answer n other theories but that’s the basis from my understanding.

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[Hilly]

Fully agree here , I would use happily

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If you test I and it comes back good then it’s good

Cheers pal. I’ll be honest just seemed skeptical was no one else seems to do it and it was around 700iu for £350. [/quote]
I would be skeptical to but there is a chance it may be sound as

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If you test I and it comes back good then it’s good

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Put blood results in here bud when they land.

Until then we’re just blind guessing and can’t accurately help

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I’m with J here.

I would have tb500 in at 1mg daily from the get go and bpc at 500-1mg daily

These for me are the main and most important ones

Then the GHK n KPV great additions.

A Klow blend would be perfect here from pro forma

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We’re is your body composition/ fat levels currently?

Any hit cardio ? If not add 3 sessions a week.

Get leaner
Keep your good fat intake overall higher than you have been.

I would also drop down to a cruise and focus on making these numbers all in range.

Then Move back to cycle steadily and check numbers every 8 weeks.

I’ve just done exactly this myself

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Going for stress test with echo in a couple weeks to check for actual blockages and soft plaque. Does anyone have experience with gear after a positive calcium score? Assuming no blockages or soft plaque, my plan is to stay around 200-250mg test per week year round. I wanna know if there’s any room for shorter growth phases with slight dose escalation to try and still be able to progress. Any thoughts of competing are gone now sadly, but I still wanna improve. I was thinking start with a very small increase then check labs. If all is ideal then continue until I see what a realistic ceiling is without any derangement in labs, bp, insulin sensitivity, etc. I have to minimize risk as much as possible but I don’t wanna just assume it’s trt only or nothing if I don’t have to.

It’s exactly as you said , making very small changes and tracking blood work and biometrics.

Picking those drugs we know cause the least toxicity – mast n primo.

Looking to positives to keep all areas of the body functioning as high as you can so you can really get the most out of what your body can do with the least AAs. Leveraging peptides plus smart nutrition and training makes all the sense here

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[Hilly]

Also fully agree with Allison

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[Hilly]

SLU – 300mcg Pre both training sessions
5 amino – 500-1000mcg on wake daily
Mots C – 1mg 5-7 times a week on wake
SS31 – same AS mots C

Reta – my favoured approach is 250mcg 4-5 times a week as I get no hunger suppression from this. If this is something you want look to bigger doses less often. Maybe 500-750mcg twice a week.

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Tuesday – rest day

5 meals in , just 1 carb meal as meal 5

16k steps

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I’d potentially look to just remove the EQ and reassess bloodwork in 6 weeks or so and see if E2 comes back up to a better range.

I would also recommend this to be honest with E2 been crashed badly. Pull the EQ out and stick with 500mg test split daily to allow for the best hormonal profile possible and then recheck bloods in 6 weeks. It will take a while for E2 to come back up as the Eq will linger

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Thanks hilly, just a few follow questions if that’s ok mate, just so I can get all my ducks in a row.

1) I was a fat kid and likely had pubescent gyno but that has been long gone. Therefore I’m keen to avoid a flare up. I’ve low E2 aromatisation as you say, and I’m about 15-18% BF which is probably higher than ideal. To avoid anything developing prior to my 5/6 week blood tests would it make sense to run Nolva ED at 10mg for first 5 weeks?

2) at that point, If E2 is looking not ideal, i have access to primo – what mg could I bring that in at to help recomp? Rather than an ai?

3) There’s no risk without reward but what are the chances of returning to similar natural Test levels after the above PCT? (24.6)

4) recent test show high prolactin at 501mlu/l (range 86-324)! I don’t feel overly stressed but how much of a concern is that in relation to gyno development? Would P5P get that into a better spot?

Yo yo

1 – if your prone to gyno then having the low dose Nolva in daily would be a wise move yes – if your really worried you could take just 1 x 0.5mg adex a week until you asses bloods. Again its very much your choice and how cautious you want to be.

2 – 100mg primo may well do the job, it depends how high E2 goes and how your response to the primo is which again we dont know until you run it and then recheck with bloods.

3 – pretty solid chance of coming back to normal bud in reality, I dont personally no any one that could not return to normal post a low dose cycle like this. Some just take longer than others.

4 – I would get the P5P in at 200mg daily yes

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