[Josh]

Ah Josh it’s clicked who you are, honestly buddy, I know you said last time gyno was from teenage puberty etc but you really need to get that operated on before you will be competitive. Seek some professional advice and get that sorted so you can be your best and not get marked down for it buddy ????

thanks Jamie although it will never go without the op its sort of under control atm. it’s a huge dilemma for me as I’ve spent time learning classic posing and I’m right on the upper limit in weight for NABBA however to get to the level I want to be eg 2bros at 82kg currently physique is more attainable for me maybe another 5/6kg stage weight. to do classic 2bros I’d need another 16kg stage weight at my height

[Josh]

Haha that’s it mate…we all want that elixir to fix everything.

Completely agree. A lot of it comes down to basic stuff…getting those steps in, drinking enough water/electrolyte balance, eating enough of the right kind of foods and micronutrients.

Niacin is something to use periodically I think…but the flush and looking like a lobster isn’t fun.  Annoyingly I don’t think it’s practical to take at night either as it seems to keep me awake whenever I’ve used it.

@Josh Maddison

Sorry for the hiijack of the post mate….

For what it’s worth, my suggestion would be to stick to a cruise period after your show for a bit.  You’re bound to have a skewed blood work profile in a pre-contest phase due to the various compounds you’re running.

I’d recommend some liver support (which you’ve stated you’re now running) and then allowing your test-estrogen ratio to return to a more favourable level when cruising after your show which will hopefully rebalance your lipids better.

Sounds like you’re covering most of it on the supplement side of things and personally I don’t think adding in more there will do a lot for your blood work at this point.

Sometimes the only real fix is to remove the offending compounds or what’s driving the issue…not just throwing more health support supplements at it.

cheers jay. The plan is obviously to remove all orals fat burners and AIs post show. will probably just drop to test E n mast E low dose for 8 weeks with 2ou GH before adding more of each compound plus primo

[Josh]

test e, primo, mast also here in off 2017, pretty decent stack.

Not very toxic, bloods were good ! ????

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what dosages wotti

[Josh]

I have been running Test e, Mast p and primo through offseason last year and this year and bloods were bang on. No gyno issues and I can be sensitive to this so defo a positive.

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what dosages did you run that at tim? I seen a post by Joe Jeffery who says this is one of the safest cycles going with a small dose of GH daily too depending on your goal.

[Josh]

So basically my HDL is 0.5. My non HDL is 3.0. My total cholesterol is 3.5 however my ratio is skewed at 6.9 due to HDL. Liver values were at 118 ALT upper range been 40. AST 87 upper range been 41. Everything else seemed okay. Full blood count nothing out of range

[Josh]

@hilly @drdeanstmart @haider-mehdi

[Josh]

@hilly @drdeanstmart @haider-mehdi

[Josh]

@louismoylan @louis-moylan who did you use the bloods pal and which profile did you opt for

[Josh]

Jamie I know you had your bloods done with medichecks pre blast. which profile did you opt for and did you find them reliable and the profile you chose give you enough detail around kidney/liver cholesterol etc??

[Josh]

The JP health stack, the liver stack, The SN multivitamin as it contains K2 and D3 and vit B. Peptopro not necessary not ckrtisolve nor heart stack… maybe just add some astragalus and OTC vit c and dandelion root and omega 3s. All relatively cheap in super markets

[Josh]

Also interested in good halo source too.

elixir

[Josh]

Onyxia stuff is strong. however as always with gear… get it tested if your unsure

[Josh]

@kuba1000hotmail-co-uk-cielen yes we have a plan mate thanks and yes still holding/fat water on the legs but cardio still sky high. just wanted to know what the thoughts of the pros were. But I will only follow coaches orders!!

[Josh]

elixir GTG

[Josh]

elixir is a good brand. had a lot of it tested as well