[K-Antoni]

Yeh I’m really struggling

[K-Antoni]

No I did it all myself

[K-Antoni]

not to sound like a pussy as all this makes me feel mentally weak and that’s why I think I struggled to except all this in the first place but just went to train lower started with biceps and I’m sweating extremely hot and hands are shacking think this could of been to the excessive amount of carbs I just ate not sure tbh but I’ve just left the gym.

It’s so hard to not get depressed by all this trying to keep my he’s dup

[K-Antoni]

This has been going on a while but I’ve managed it well by just doing cardio or trying to adjust meals later in the day but some can be as big as 1000-2000 calories binges. I have kept it quite for a long time as I was to ashamed and didn’t want to mention it to family, friends or post on the forums as I know I was annoying some of the coaches on here with my previous posts

I ended the fatloss phase on the 10th march as advised by the coaches since then this has been my weekly averages

-71.63kg
-72.13kg
-74.42kg
-72.81kg
-73.8kg
-74.24kg
-73.81kg
-74.44kg
-75.15kg
-75.21kg
-75.16kg

I want to note none of that weight gain has been productive as there’s been no meaningful lift progression or increase in training performance.

Since my post I took 3 days of the gym which was hard for me but to try and mitigate this feeling of overwhelming fatigue – but it’s still here.

I’m trying to have frequent high protein meals that are nutrient dense and gain a small amount of body weight but still I just binge even with volume eating low call drinks trying every trick in the book.

[K-Antoni]

Booked an appointment so will report back after bloods

[K-Antoni]

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[K-Antoni]

Still since here just feeling drained all the time so I’m going to get my bloods done and tested do you guys think I may have crashed hormones from low body fat % as I go into and start a workout and feel how I used to at the end of the workout.

Nothing is flowing music does nothing no Adrenaline or pump to train feels monotonous af. Feel like I’m dragging my self around the gym floor. I’m up from 70kg to 75kg gaining 0.4kg on average per week so I know it’s not a lack of calories do I just need to keep pushing weight up until I feel normal? I feel lost and confused can someone please help I’m following the recommendations of 2-4 sets start with weekends upper lower split I’m even running it 2 on 1 of 2 on 2 off so added an additional rest day within the week and still feel things overwhelming drained feeling I’ll post my split below but not sure what else to say or do at this point

[K-Antoni]

@kubacielen would you recommend hip hinge/deadlifting on both lower days for example lower A and RDL then lower B and SLDL or should I do lower A RDL then lower B lying leg curl for example

[K-Antoni]

Hello mate, rate of weight is slow and efficient, keep that like this.

It takes time, once u will reach the + 10kg show us the update and we will tell u if you need a slight step back or if you are still go to go

Thank you

[K-Antoni]

This rate of gain isnt excessive at all especially off the back of a diet phase. Nice rate of gain.

You will feel better, you will perform better, you will recover better. Keep taking it slow and steady as Jordan states over the next 24+ weeks and you will build some solid muscle.

Don’t overthink it. Get strong, enjoy the process.

Thank you what rate of gain do you recommend ?

[K-Antoni]

Take 24-30 weeks from here to get to 82/83kg , go slow. That’s it . It doesn’t need anymore discussion at all . All you have to go is nod and do it . If you just keep coming back with more questions , more excuses you create for yourself, you’re just fucked . Nod, 82/83 come back in 30 weeks and post the pics . Make sure your seeing PO in sessions

Thank you will do 🫡

[K-Antoni]

Fully agree with the gents above and also I am very glad to see after all this time and advice from all on here you have finally decided to take it onboard.

Take your time

Current rate of gain is perfect

Simply rinse and repeat for 25-30 weeks

So a gain rate of 0.2-0.5kg per week is good?

[K-Antoni]

Any advice would be appreciated

[K-Antoni]

@Jordan_peters if there was a couple things you would say to focus on what would they be in terms of maximum muscle mass and to help me make a decision on choosing upper-lower or push,pull,legs

[K-Antoni]

So would you say the frequency is irrelevant?