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Hey Kuba, sorry if you’ve covered it before but why you don’t do any adductor work on legs lately?
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so much value just explaining the why behind every decision you make in regards to training, especially now with the high frequency! So so much to take away!
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Thanks all!
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It honestly doesn’t matter
90 seconds or so
thanks Jordan!
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Ahhh sorry I did totally misunderstand it , I did think it was a super odd question haha
Yes , try to drop them at just the right moment 🙂
Haha it was an inspiring speech anyway💪🏻 -
Borge that’s awesome on the older splits , I know a long time ago full body work was a lot more popular , but also men were actually men and not afraid to work , now men don’t know if they are even men , let alone still boys , they think they are a tree or a plant , or a horse , so they will avoid work at any cost haha.
Kbb , I won’t ever need more volume than that , that’s enough for me at the point where my legs and back at all time size and it will take them to the biggest they have ever been
Micro loading may stall / it may not , who cares ? Why wouldn’t you try? What’s the reason for not trying ? We micro load absolutely eveyrhtjng , and always take progress , the moment we know the micro loading will stall we take the additional off and take a rep. You have asked me why do I try to make progress , that’s a very strange question compared to me then asking, why wouldn’t you try to make progress ? Guess out of the two of us has probably made more progress based on just their mental approach to things? ( I apply that mindset to everything in life too , and that’s taken us pretty far so far , and we are only scratching the surface of how far it’s going to take us in the coming years , we have been in our new warehouse 6 months that has room for 400 pallets of storage and we already need more space , I thought this would last us 5 years
Progress is a mindset
Jordan I think you misunderstood my question haha. I didn’t ask if micro loading will stall eventually. I asked if that is the reason (you can feel it’s going to stall) you like to drop weight and get the extra rep when you have added 5 kg instead of continuing the micro load. -
No not like I can it seems . I will go in today and again absolutely know I can add some load and get it , and then after multiple sessions of slightly increased loading , I can adjust that down and get an additional rep
Eg
Yday I did stiff leg deep into the session that was 277kg x 5 , so that’s my 5 rep baseline
I know I could go eod on that and do 278/279/280/281/282/283/284/285 , then I would pull it back to 277 and get 6 , then repeat
I control my variables outside the gym very very well, I never ever miss meals, my sleep is perfect and my stress is acceptable- these are key
Then I think it’s a combo of physical and mental , my dad was so exceptionally strong he was a plumber but worked a ton on house builds where stuff had to be carried a lot , I saw him carry baths up stairs on his own , I saw him carry a washing machine on his shoulder up a ladder once as it was the only way they could get it in as The stairs were being worked on lol , and my mum was and still is very lean and in great shape so I have the genetics for growing muscle for sure
Mentally I also refuse to go into the gym with anything but that progress mindset
also, in the example you gave why drop back to 277 to get an extra rep and not continue micro loading as you did up to that point? Obviously you don’t have to do anything it’s just a choice, just curious whty:) Probably micro laoding will stall eventually?
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Really superb session again , so that’s back and legs every other day for 6 days , 3 sessions completed and I’m happy with my volume, I kept the leg press scaled back at one set , and it was absolutely the right call as my lifts progressed comfortably from two days ago , which is wild as I have been grinding those leg ext for months and months . I will explain my thinking further down
Cybex eagle lat row x 6 ( 1 rir ) x 6
Prime upper back x 6 x 7
Rear delt row x 7 x 9
Leg ext x 6 x 5
Leg press x 7
Lying leg curl x 6 ( 1 rir ) x 5 ( 1rir )
Stiff leg x 5 ( 1 rir )
Glutinator x 10
Hip thrust x 5
Adductor x 8
Curl x 4 x 5
Calf x 6Ok so I have done stiff legs Eod too , I’m going to alternate that with a weighted 45 machjne that I got delivered today , it needs building so likely won’t be up wed, but I will stiff leg again if it’s not and I will keep the back work first as it was a breeze
So my thinking is this , we are on a time line after training that goes : under recovered >>>>>>sweet spot >>>>> atrophy
So many many guys waiting 6/7 days to train things are missing a potential sweet spot to re train things and moving back into a state of losing the adaptations that have incurred from the previous session
This is why you can change so fast from eod work as if you get the volume right , you hit this sweet spot where the moment the adaptations have occurred ( we know they are all done in 48 hours ) , your ready to go as you haven’t created recovery demands that cannot be met
Certain movements don’t fit this mould when done fresh , stiff leg would be one for defo , but sub max like I’m doing feels doable , I still did 277kg today after back and leg
The videos are going on IG , but I’m not on there anymore , I’m done with it , so any interaction at all with me you will only get on here , I won’t do Q n A anymore , I will do a version of them on here , I won’t be there for any kind of Dms at all , so if you want to contact us , post on here ( if it’s relevant to my log ) , or email customer service . I want to keep my ability to help high , and that’s not possible on IG anymore , as the level of interaction is simply too high and I can feel it scattering my brain lol and I’m going to start getting arsey with people , so I like to think I’m self aware enough to get off there before I start to misrepresent myself out of frustration
Is there a point though where you are too big for that volume with an eod frequency and maybe need more? Or do you believe there is no such thing as minimum effective volume?
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That’s literally it buddy 🙂 . I’m also really figuring stuff out as I like to know what my body can and can’t do
Can I do 2 or 3 sets of leg curl with an eod approach ? Or is it just 1 set if I also have a stiff leg in there?
I want to know , I like knowing the ins and outs of everything 🙂
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It’s not weeks ago , it’s usually a week or so max until I repeat the exact same order and the reality is the only thing that changes is where back exercises fall
Legs is always the same , it just has more/less leg ext
If it’s upper it starts with the same press movements As push
So what changes ? Pull
Work is either fresh or after push and that
Makes zero diff to me it seemsOk yeah makes sense. And I suppose you don’t keep one specific split at the moment because you autoregulate based on recovery (and injuries) and your recovery fluctuates a bit at the moment hence the change in splits ? I know it has nothing to do with me, just curious -
Great session , knees still feel good today after that work yday !
So defo green light to re pick back up what I wanted to for the eod legs
I will still toggle between my splits , so please defo spare me the , have you now stopped doing X , it’s painful , this isn’t IG lol , defo understand that I’m going to be constantly mixing my frequency up based on feeling things out
Rest tmo and then I will hit leg pull thurs , i obv did pull today but in 2 sleeps my back is ready to go again no issue and I will be able to progress lifts
so when you are toggling between splits, since exercise selection or order is different every time you change slpit, do you compare progress form last time you did the same exact split event if it is weeks ago?
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thanks:)
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Can you share a bit more of the stuff you said on insta that you talked with Jordan about training lately? It would be very interesting. Besides the pauses in shortened on pull that you mentioned:)
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Yeah 8 k on td and 10 on rest day
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Thanks 🙂