[Kiriakos Leventis]

Short and intense like?

Also regarding blood glucose regulation, morning fasted and breakfast soon after or breakfast first and cardio straight away?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

So right now in my off season at about 10% bf, would you see merit in having it in? If yes for what reason other than estrogen control and hardening?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

I run it to improve free testosterone levels when the justification is there – true TRT set up, limited on how much test they can use and cant source masteron.

I also find into a show it without a doubt seems to have a hardening effect on the look and helps mos retain fullness

So basically just an SHBG dropper. Hardening effect tho? maybe my 25mg weren’t enough to see it…

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I’m sorry to hear that buddy , if you post ur insta I’m sure one of the lads will send you a contact

would it be inappropriate if I made another topic asking for that exact thing so it gets more attention?

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I’m sorry to hear that buddy , if you post ur insta I’m sure one of the lads will send you a contact

OK then fingers crossed, here it is https://www.instagram.com/leventiskiriakos?igsh=YWNnM2hrNnE4b280

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Where are you based ? Get some Chinese stuff , it’s what most of us use too , I pay way less than the guys have mentioned above too

I am based in Greece, the shitty economy country… My finances were fine until I suddenly came upon a debt that was not even mine of 7000 euro… This will take me until June to get back on my feet and start earning money towards the profit side again. Now I just spend my savings

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Do you buy gh directly from china?
I found 240ui for $100

Great idea to try it?

Test report seems very good quality

Ι don’t know if it’s against the rules but I would love some sharing. As for what Jordan says about working extra unrofrunately I cant work right now because of actual reasons that are too complicated to explain other than laziness.

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Can you not pick up generic GH that’s £1- £1.20 an iu ? Then you can take a proper dose and it’s going to cost you £6-7 a day

I pay 160 for 100 iu but certain circumstances are what they are… So?

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He backtracked fully on his post when he got his arsehoke fully torn apart for that post and said that he meant taking 0.7-1mg a week not doing anything

Well for me 1mg did crazy stuff for appetite suppression with 2×0.5mg a week.

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Potentially you may squeeze more fat loss from fasted cardio with GH and yohimbine vs cardio at another point in the day because of fatty acid mobilisation . But when we then just factor in steps and overall

Energy balance , it then doesn’t make a difference once we get to the end of the day. I also despise yohimbine 😂

Even if this mechanism works, do you think it’s important to try and take advantage of it for the purposes of getting 7-8% BF instead of stage lean, or I could just eat breakfast with coffee as soon as I wake up because I despise early day movement? 😅[/quote]
if you want to maximise all avenues to get to were you want to be as quickly as possible then yes.

If your happy for it to take a touch longer then enjoy your breakfast and coffee 🙂[/quote] This is really an answer I loved, morning coffee it is haha

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Potentially you may squeeze more fat loss from fasted cardio with GH and yohimbine vs cardio at another point in the day because of fatty acid mobilisation . But when we then just factor in steps and overall
Energy balance , it then doesn’t make a difference once we get to the end of the day. I also despise yohimbine 😂

Even if this mechanism works, do you think it’s important to try and take advantage of it for the purposes of getting 7-8% BF instead of stage lean, or I could just eat breakfast with coffee as soon as I wake up because I despise early day movement? 😅

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Final question, if the deficit is a fact all day every day for weeks, then fasted cardio under the influence of high pre Sleep gh or early in the morning and yohimbine?

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If you can add muscle while dieting , great . But any of the shit to do with timing set up isn’t going to be why that’s occurring . Whoever the coach was , they were a moron

So fasted cardio on gh and yohimbine isn’t of any real benefit for extra fat loss?

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😂 , I don’t really know what to say haha , it’s one of the dumbest fucking things I have heard in a LONG time

Do cardio at Any point . Cardio is for fitness / mitochondrial health

Do steps whenever, to adjust energy balance

For bulking context that’s what I thought too, for cutting tho?

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Ye he offers options for people to try . The more options , the better chance you have of finding what you like .

Do I like the way he talks in absolutes ? No , I think that’s moronic .

So take the options , try and see and then compare to higher test eq

And decide what one suits you better

I at times have really enjoyed high nandrolone cycles , they make me passive and calm outside of training ( I am always very fierce in training )

Atm on high test I am extremely fierce all the time and I’m enjoying that atm as a nice change

Options , over absolutes

Fully agree with J here. the key is trying everything and finding what works best for you for current goal and future goals. Thats the fun in all of this. So I fully agree there.

There is however no absolutes in all of this, thats a fact. I have worked with over a thousand people and literally something that may be perfect for 1 is terrible for the other.[/quote]

Exactly, I can see there are many school of thoughts with none of them being necessarily wrong depending on one’s genetic makeup