[Kiriakos Leventis]

Potentially you may squeeze more fat loss from fasted cardio with GH and yohimbine vs cardio at another point in the day because of fatty acid mobilisation . But when we then just factor in steps and overall

Energy balance , it then doesn’t make a difference once we get to the end of the day. I also despise yohimbine 😂

Even if this mechanism works, do you think it’s important to try and take advantage of it for the purposes of getting 7-8% BF instead of stage lean, or I could just eat breakfast with coffee as soon as I wake up because I despise early day movement? 😅[/quote]
if you want to maximise all avenues to get to were you want to be as quickly as possible then yes.

If your happy for it to take a touch longer then enjoy your breakfast and coffee 🙂[/quote] This is really an answer I loved, morning coffee it is haha

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Potentially you may squeeze more fat loss from fasted cardio with GH and yohimbine vs cardio at another point in the day because of fatty acid mobilisation . But when we then just factor in steps and overall
Energy balance , it then doesn’t make a difference once we get to the end of the day. I also despise yohimbine 😂

Even if this mechanism works, do you think it’s important to try and take advantage of it for the purposes of getting 7-8% BF instead of stage lean, or I could just eat breakfast with coffee as soon as I wake up because I despise early day movement? 😅

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Final question, if the deficit is a fact all day every day for weeks, then fasted cardio under the influence of high pre Sleep gh or early in the morning and yohimbine?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

If you can add muscle while dieting , great . But any of the shit to do with timing set up isn’t going to be why that’s occurring . Whoever the coach was , they were a moron

So fasted cardio on gh and yohimbine isn’t of any real benefit for extra fat loss?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

😂 , I don’t really know what to say haha , it’s one of the dumbest fucking things I have heard in a LONG time

Do cardio at Any point . Cardio is for fitness / mitochondrial health

Do steps whenever, to adjust energy balance

For bulking context that’s what I thought too, for cutting tho?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

Ye he offers options for people to try . The more options , the better chance you have of finding what you like .

Do I like the way he talks in absolutes ? No , I think that’s moronic .

So take the options , try and see and then compare to higher test eq

And decide what one suits you better

I at times have really enjoyed high nandrolone cycles , they make me passive and calm outside of training ( I am always very fierce in training )

Atm on high test I am extremely fierce all the time and I’m enjoying that atm as a nice change

Options , over absolutes

Fully agree with J here. the key is trying everything and finding what works best for you for current goal and future goals. Thats the fun in all of this. So I fully agree there.

There is however no absolutes in all of this, thats a fact. I have worked with over a thousand people and literally something that may be perfect for 1 is terrible for the other.[/quote]

Exactly, I can see there are many school of thoughts with none of them being necessarily wrong depending on one’s genetic makeup

[Kiriakos Leventis]

The deciding factor of when phases stop are usually due to health metrics being off, and body composition being in a place where you need to pull back.

If health makers are perfect and body comp is good. Then you have a decision to make there’s no set rule.

Personally I would crack on…

Yes but is it necessary to have the doses high on a cut? Are we trying to build muscle or use as little as possible to maintain it?

[Kiriakos Leventis]

I am glad as my budget won’t allow me to go higher than 2mg weekly. Will wait and see, next step will be upping the dose it seems.

What is the criteria for you to up the dose if insulin sensitivity is good, appetite control is there and bloodwork is also good?