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your talking to a drug dealer trying to sell you their drugs haha, they will say anything

just buy some decent normal gh

No I know just thought I would share the responses because they were comical lol. They were pushing hard for the sale haha

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Thought I would share the response I got from Oxytropin representative 👍🏼

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I wouldn’t pick that up for that reason

Yeah I thought as much. It’s a shame as I heard lots of good things about the recombinant Oxytropin but apparently they’ve stopped making it and switches to liquid

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@Hilly quick question bud, do you know where would be the most cost effective place to get my sperm tested to see if the protocol is working as it should be? I would rather get it tested to confirm it’s doing what it should be than Over think it like I am now. Thanks

I always have my fertility clients run regular sperm checks TBH and think its a must.

Just google for fertility clinics in your area and you will find one no issues.

the one I use is £109 for the check and the results are instant.

You can get it done through your GP if you tell them you have been actively trying for over 12 months however the appointments are not quick and then average rate is 4 weeks for results which is just a joke IMO [/quote]
Perfect… I’ll jump on this now. Thanks hilly.

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@Hilly quick question bud, do you know where would be the most cost effective place to get my sperm tested to see if the protocol is working as it should be? I would rather get it tested to confirm it’s doing what it should be than Over think it like I am now. Thanks

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@Hilly is your man for this. Plenty of info over on his IG or on his Log on here.

Thanks Clare

Hitting the search feature will show countless threads on this were it is discussed in detail bud.

I have seen no need to go higher than 1000iu EOd with the HCG

Higher doses of HMG can help increase the rate at which the sperm count increases funds allowing – 150iu MWF

I would then dose HMG TTS

I like 50mg clomid in there also.

Injectable L carnatine to directly increase sperm motility [/quote]

Hi mate, thanks for the reply..

Do you mean dose the HMG MWF then the HCG TTS? Both say hmg so just double checking… for the last week I have just run them both toghther, but if alternating is more benifical I’ll do that…

I started Wednesday and testicles seem much fuller and sensitive with I’m guessing is a good sign.

Are there any unusual side effects for running HCG and HMG this high for a prolonged period? Other than raising oestrogen of corse which I’ll control. [/quote]

sorry yes I meant HCG the other one –

No sides that i am aware/experienced bar the E2 spikes from the HCG.

Im sure there may be some documented if you check the literature but when I did my research there was nothing worth making note of.[/quote]
Perfect thanks hilly much appreciated mate

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@Hilly is your man for this. Plenty of info over on his IG or on his Log on here.

Thanks Clare

Hitting the search feature will show countless threads on this were it is discussed in detail bud.

I have seen no need to go higher than 1000iu EOd with the HCG

Higher doses of HMG can help increase the rate at which the sperm count increases funds allowing – 150iu MWF

I would then dose HMG TTS

I like 50mg clomid in there also.

Injectable L carnatine to directly increase sperm motility [/quote]
Hi mate, thanks for the reply..

Do you mean dose the HMG MWF then the HCG TTS? Both say hmg so just double checking… for the last week I have just run them both toghther, but if alternating is more benifical I’ll do that…

I started Wednesday and testicles seem much fuller and sensitive with I’m guessing is a good sign.

Are there any unusual side effects for running HCG and HMG this high for a prolonged period? Other than raising oestrogen of corse which I’ll control.

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Edit to above I’m 28 now.

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Cool thank you @Nathanstyles and kamara ??

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Personally I would not be concerned with these numbers.

They are barely out of range n may of been escalated previously n trending down like the ALT

Thank you hilly ??

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Update on diet, drugs etc. below:

Current diet :

Training day

M1/ 2 eggs, 4 bacon medallions, 2 bagel thins

M2/ 180g chicken breast, 1 micro jacket

Intra/ 25g cyclic dextrin
Post/ 50g iso, 2 rice crispy square

M3/ 180g chicken breast, 200g cooked rice

M4/ 180g chicken breast, greens

M5/ 300g 0% yog, 32g iso

Rest Day

M1/ 4 eggs, 4 bacon medallions, 1 bagel thins

M2/ 180g chicken breast, 1 micro jacket

M3/ 180g chicken breast, 200g cooked rice

M4/ 180g chicken breast, greens

M5/ 180g sirloin, greens

M6/ 300g 0% yog, 32g iso

Cardio: everyday

Fasted-
Method: bike
Time: 30 minutes
Frequency: every day
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Before last meal-
Method: dog walk
Time: 20 minutes
Frequency: every day

Steps 10K daily

Supplements:

500mg test cyp per week
50mg tren ace every day
50mg mast prop every day
50mg winny ED
12.5mg aromasin EOD
3.6iu GH ED
25mcg T3 ED
80mcg clen ED
20mg yohimbine ED

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Had a refeed yesterday and weight was 199.5lbs this morning. Feel skinny as fuck lol. Plan in to dig for another 10-12 days to get the fat right down then run into peak week smoothly.

2 weeks and 3 days to go ??

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Haha awesome thank you guys. I’m quite a confident outgoing person I’m just overthinking it I think. I’ll have a couple of shots and some mango juice ??? thanks both

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Do you use this regularly ?

Sporadicly for large work meetings etc