[Neil Rennie]

Tren goes in when performance potentially drops , start low, add more as needed .
You can start no probs with nandrolone but it has to come out at some point , and u will need to replace that dose with test or eq to replicate fullness . Defo not a problem to Do, I do it, but it’s easier to just start without imo . I have just set Jamie’s start cycle for prep at 500
Test , 600 eq, 1g primo, 100 Anavar / day.
We will drop the primo for some tren at some point and have a break from the orals , test and eq will go up based on what he can handle to balance detail : fullness.

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Genuinely really appreciate the advice @jordan-peters seems to be able to use the same compounds and adjust for myself as I’m only a few years deep in usage and experience with some of these compounds. Thanks

[Neil Rennie]

Test and eq are fullness drugs in a prep. Leaner u are – more u can use and look good.
Start of prep. Primo , Anavar , and low test and eq . As get deeper tren in and test eq , up – at a rate that balances fullness to detail

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Thank you @jordan-peters
Dr dean recommended npp but just always had bad experience with it.
So just keeping eq and test in throughout and balancing dose with look, tren ace in final few weeks is your recommendation? ????

[Neil Rennie]

Don’t drop down on that crap gear your taking. You’ll be at low unhealthy levels lol.
Change brand to a gd one. Run 100-150mg a week. This should put you around 25-30 test range. Get bloods checked again before going on cycle so you know stuff is good pre prep.
What was the lab , Don’t use this lab again

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@hilly
Thanks mate
It was sis labs, first time I had it was legit
Second batch I bought clearly not!! Lol
Recommend any labs?
Could get Magnus?

[Neil Rennie]

Yeah drop down for that short period to give body a bit of a break then go at it for comp. cycle looks sound.

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Thanks Tim

[Neil Rennie]

The quality is just terrible bud… I wouldn’t touch it I’ve tried some my self u had someone give me and it was 1000% very under dosed

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Thank you man
Is there any brands you put more trust in?

[Neil Rennie]

Who did the blood work? Medichecks?

Yes mate

[Neil Rennie]

Do you feel it?
I feel if I’m on test or not ????

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If I hadn’t had seen the blood work I wouldn’t have questioned it to be honest
Dieting so slight drop in libido and strength harder to come by but no big red flags

[Neil Rennie]

Does the verification code check out on their website mate?

Yes mate it does
It’s strange
Was a full blood profile so feel it unlikely the test would come back so wrong
Puts me off using them but only hear good things
Might be best retesting e2 and rest?

[Neil Rennie]

@hilly
Thoughts? You are always a wealth of knowledge ????

[Neil Rennie]

Same ran it a lot and had great results
Might test blood and e2 test again and see if it could have been an error

[Neil Rennie]

Thank you for response
Both are from SIS
I’ve had bloods done before and test was at 170 on same dose and brand
It doesn’t feel lower physically

[Neil Rennie]

keep test at 400mg, and use aromasin.

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Thank you

[Neil Rennie]

@jwushu85 @hilly @haider-mehdi
Thanks
Appreciate the response

[Neil Rennie]

@wotti
It’s strange
Stopped the npp about 5 days ago and have had .5 of arimidex and its starting to clear
Due blood work back tomorrow

[Neil Rennie]

Wow – amazing response guys ????
Rotties – I would in that instance look at taking them in the late evening then? What about looking to add Boswella as a COX inhibitor daily? Would be beneficial in this instance.

Tyler – More than likely the Ashwagandha. People respond so differently to adaptogens both positively and negatively from a hormonal perspective.

Joany – Just take them in the evening time.

Borja – that is a very difficult question answer as regardless of B&C or Cycle/PCT the HPTA will be shutdown and FSH production effected knocking onto sperm production. Unfortunately that would have to be a decision on your part but either way as I said sperm production will be effected regardless. Neither of the two I can say will be better from a fertility standpoint and maintaining sperm production.

A full PCT post use regardless will always yield positive effects on fertility providing the HPTA responds to output FSH again. Otherwise synthetic forms of FSH (hMG) would need to be considered. If you read through my full log as well as the commments I put in Ryan’s there’s more there for you to consider.

Neil – Its most likely due to the progestin acitivity of NPP interacting at the E2 receptor. I would stop the NPP and also assess E2 in bloodwork to make sure it is not elevated.

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Thank you @drdeanstmart
Sent for blood work
Would something like eq be a better second compound in this case?