[Patrick Houben]

Interesting. If I’d run 25mcg on its own, I’d end up hypo af. Currently on 175t4+20t3

[Patrick Houben]

@haider-mehdi  If taking t3 continuously and without t4, 25mcg is def too low. T3 only  as replacement in hypothyroid people usually ends up to be between 40 and 60mcg. I’d add in at least 100mcg t, 25mcg might even prevent you from gaining. Just my 2ct as a >5 years hypo patient

And this is were a person that NEEDS is different to one that uses.

25mcg put me mid range for over 12 months. There’s t3 25mcg

Been using on n off almost ten years n seeing clients bloods

Never in a non medical person have I seen the need to continually increase.

Now yes I have seen people use t3 n be low end normal 25mcg.

When they come off n thyroid kicks in they have been mid range n thus t3 at 25mcg was a bad move

I’ve seen others be at top end range in 25mcg t3 to.

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[/quote] i think that’s cause people who use t3 without being hypo, just top up their own production without shutting off TSH. If you take just one dose of 25mcg daily, you might not shut off your TSH completely. In replacement, with t4/t3 combination therapy or t3 only, people usually split doses to achieve stable t3 levels throughout the day

[Patrick Houben]

@haider-mehdi If taking t3 continuously and without t4, 25mcg is def too low. T3 only as replacement in hypothyroid people usually ends up to be between 40 and 60mcg. I’d add in at least 100mcg t, 25mcg might even prevent you from gaining. Just my 2ct as a >5 years hypo patient

[Patrick Houben]

@haider-mehdi how much t3/t4 do you take normally (not in a cut) just curious.

[Patrick Houben]

Old thread, but anyways:

If single dosing t3, taking it pre sleep is better. Looking at your natural circadian rhythm of t3, it spikes in night to fire cortisol production for the morning, where cortisol should be the highest.

[Patrick Houben]

I have done a few cycles like that. My last one was 500 test with 1750 nandro, felt awesome.

I no surprise with 2250mg total 😀 but in my case I wanna keep the test as low as possible to keep hair loss minimal so I don’t think it’s comparable tbh

[Patrick Houben]

Thanks mate. Found something with higher deca, but nothing with test <250mg. Will search again.

[Patrick Houben]

My last cycle was 200mg test and 700mg deca… best cycle i ran ever. No sides, best gains with good amount food, no AI.

Sounds good. How long did you run this and how much weight did you put on? How big was your caloric surplus?