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I have say you’re not on the right track…

I think you can repeat first cycle, minus the eq and gain even more… I’m not sure why people jump to such dosages as 1st / 2nd cycles these days…

Why eq added to first cycle?

As you say “with least amount of drugs possible, as healthy as”….

Think longevity AND health AND quality muscle bud, this is by no means me being negative, it’s experience so I hope you take note

300-400 test ONLY and then MAYBE 100-200 primo if you need it down there line during this next cycle.
I double you even need primo.

Hope this helps

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Hi bud. How old are you? How tall are you? How heavy are you and how lean are you?

I think both these cycles are too high for your 1sr and 2nd personally

You can gain A LOT still on dosages that are kept lower… keeping you healthier and giving much better longevity and room for progression

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You must need more time to recover buddy. Body will always heal itself, stay on trt, take your health supps to support heart & organ health, eat as healthy as you can… in 3-4 weeks take some more bloods

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So Saturday was arms and delts for me again, Sunday was rest day / family day out,

December downtime continues for me, much as I hate not training, I know it’ll do me a world of good in terms of recovery, joints, motivation come the start of my diet in the new year

Delts and arms this time I decided to separate biceps and triceps instead of super setting them like usual

Rear pec Dec 4 x 7-13

Wide grip smith upright rows 3 x 6-10

Smith shrugs 3 x 4-10

Rope tricep ext 3 x 10-20

Panatta dip machine 4 x 6-10

Over head ex extensions 3 x 10-15

Ez bar bicep curls 3 x 6-12

Rope cable hammers 3 x 8-12

Single arm cable curls 3 x 8-15

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So well said buddy [/quote]

It’s an area I have so much interest in now.

Simply because every dam doctor I spoke to said – ivf only option

No matter what I suggested , admitted to them.

It infuriated me.

They said at almost 0. That’s it. Ivf only option

8 million per ml n low motility / morphology- that’s it. Ivf only option

13 million n all in range – ohh er er –

Not once did either private or nhs check my own hormones / testosterone etc

Crazy [/quote]
That sounds ridiculously frustrating mate!

So you think in this country fertility aid is just poorly supported?

My test level was 2.4 at best when we conceived , LH and fsh crept up to just below normal after 6 months of being off test totally during that time,and I’m guessing that’s what pushed my sperm count up.

But a portion of my sperm that were deformed, they asked for a retest but by the time I got that test back Leanne was pregnant

[Sasan Heirati]

Sas is one of the best in the world and still took time off anabolics to focus on more important things, I think that says it all. There are times when trt may be needed if your natural test is unable to recover. Hilly has done both methods. When test is too low sperm cannot mature, this is pretty rare as most will recover reasonable test levels

Thanks Ryan ? it hurt haha but I got through it

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@sasan85@hotmail.com thank you so much brother! You give me power to keep thinking positive, appreciate it so much??

Any time brother! Positive mindset takes you waaaay further then most people think.

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So well said buddy

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I also think this is a good idea.

Trial and error is key though, monitor your recovery and growth

I’ve found in the last delts and biceps do respond well to high frequency

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So still holding 246-248 lbs at the moment

Haven’t trained last couple days due to having family stay with us, planned outings etc etc

Downtime December (as I like to call it) is in full flow 🙂 i have zero urge to train (yep I’m crazy, but it helps my joints / cns a lot)

Food has been loosely followed, but still quite clean really, especially for me, protein and fats are kept strict, carbs are up and down. Usually down. I actually feel leaner so I must be under eating, but when I do keep protein and fats high during these times, I maintain size really well. So not worried

I think from next week I’ll start getting training and PED’s going back up slowly, take Xmas days off, then hit it pretty hard over the New Years days and onwards

Hope you guys are all well!!

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thank you for your response, I’m going to try a new approach to workout intensity, calories and dosage by being more progressive on all of these things.

Awesome keep us posted 🙂

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I know it’s hard, but this is our own choice, the one we made when we decided to take steroids, it’s temporary buddy trust me!! You’ll be back for firing on all fun cylinders in no time after you conceive

Hcg and hmd can help but that totally depends on what your body might need given what your sperm analysis comes out as

Best thing for you to do before the sperm test is to come off everything and see where your body is at before deciding. I’m sure we will help moving forward from there

But as always others will chime in here that maybe know better then me 🙂

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Hi bud. I think you’re going about this very wrong. I was in the same boat in 2019 but I seems our professional
Advice from an actual doctor.
Firstly.. You’re on test and mast… why? That’s shutting down your LH and FSH… telling your body it’s got enough test so it becomes flatlined fertility wise.. regardless of how much hcg and hmg you take… that’s you giving your body 2 totally opposite directions so your body has no idea what to do with this information…
To get your testes producing sperm your body needs to start producing it’s one hormones naturally, or with the right medication of course.
Some guys get lucky, but the rest of us need to COME OFF anabolics.
I tried for over 6 months being totally off and it worked, it was slow but your body will do what it needs if you let it.
Come off.
Be patient.
Get the sperm test and see what the professionals tell you….
The doctors are here to help us regardless of what most in the industry think

Hope this helps buddy, keep us posted

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Hi. Progressing doesn’t rely on just the drugs. Progressing depends on how you perform and progress during your training sessions, your food intake, rest and recovery, mindset, health, list can go on. THEN, Performance enhancement wise maybe start with lower dosages, and taper a very small amount every 2-3 weeks….

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Kuba is right, no one NEEDS any PED’s to obtain a good physique. BUT, if you’re always using, then unless competing at a very very very high level I don’t think anyone “needs” tren. But as always it’s a personal choice so if you give context as to where you’re at in your bodybuilding career then maybe we can help.