[Paul]

Any new foods you weren’t eating previously? I only ask because usually I’m spot free, however certain foods have made me break out badly on cycle.

Hey Stephen, the only thing I can think of was i introduced things like fruit juice to get some easy calories in but with my calories dropped I’m not having that anymore

[Paul]

Hey Hilly,

I did actually change lab from crown to Rohm, sorry I should of mentioned that probably around the 15 week mark. Is this most likely what’s caused it?

I’ve only ever missed one day max here and there but make sure I’m still doing the same weekly mg.

Work is busier but In a good way so less life stress, over 20 weeks I’ve put on around 35 pounds, last time I was at my heaviest I noticed more facial acne and thought that could of just been from the volume of food.

Thanks for the reply ?

[Paul]

Hey Pal, I can only comment on the prime leg extension because that’s the only peice of kit out of the above that I have access to. If doing 2 sets I would probably load the middle and top pin pretty evenly. This will allow a pretty consistent amount of resistance throughout with a slightly lighter lockout allowing you to get the quad fully short. I never ever load the bottom pin. Sometimes I will do 3 sets, set 1 with the middle pin loaded only, set 2 with the middle and top pins evenly loaded and set 3 with the top pin loaded only! This way Strenghening all ranges of motion!

Cheers for the reply Louis, yeah stupid me I thought the torque arm was the other way round, glad I asked now!?

[Paul]

Hi Hilly is there a ratio of estrogen to testosterone you like to see? My HDL is also out of range at 0.81, do you think swapping to JP’s pro omegas which is double the total omega I’m currently using from Sup needs would sort it or would you add in Love heart at maybe half a serving too? Cheers mate have a great time in Dubai

[Paul]

Hi Calum, great to have you on here! Does your maximum tolerable dose of testosterone increase once you add in a DHT derivative like primo or once you’ve found your max tolerable dose does it never change?

I’m on my first cycle and and my blood work showed the testosterone I’ve been using is under dosed, so a week ago I increased the dose to put my testosterone in the range 300mg should roughly put me at and have noticed more spots appearing on my back. I haven’t gained any water weight and no gyno scare, so as far as I’m aware my E2 is fine but could this be a sign that im at/over my maximum dose tolerable or just my body adjusting to the increase and just having an outbreak? Cheers

Hi Will

Great question.

So basic state of play here when we look at the pharmacology;

Increase in T > increase aromatase activity > increase in E2 > window of time where that androgen to oestrogen ratio may be a little skewed > higher E2 symptoms may at this point begin to appear.

Does this mean that ratio will remain skewed and E2 will continue to be an issue? No, not necessarily, but it does mean you’re going to be exposing yourself to a window of time where you’re more susceptible to sides.

Look at the half life of the ester you’re using for T, this may shine light on how long it might take for symptoms to settle, i.e. once the specific ester has reached peaked blood plasma levels and settled, you may well see a balancing of E2.

On the other hand, increased exposure to or first hand exposure to a DHT derivative (in the form of primo or masteron) will increase tolerability to higher T exposure, so will the likes of proviron usage.

If you’re planning on titrating test further in the phase you’re in, either add in a DHT derivative now if symptoms don’t dissipate, or if symptoms of higher E2 do subside, add it in before your next T increase.

Even as little as 50-100mg of added DHT derivative can be enough to regain control of T:E2 ratio.

If you’re in a growth phase, I’d tend to favour primo as a primary growth promoter. Masteron I’d usually save for prep / deficit phases, not to say masteron isn’t a growth promoter in nature, it’s just not a very potent one. It would be akin to eating your dinner using a pair of chop sticks, or using knife and fork. They’re both going to eventually mean dinner gets eaten, it’s just one is going to be far more effective than the other.

[/quote]
Thanks for the reply it all makes perfect sense, how long would you usually wait for the symptoms to settle before deciding to add in a DHT derivative/pulling test back?

If I were to keep the test the same for the remaining 6 weeks of my cycle assuming the current flare up subsides, would you add 50-100mg of Primo in at the start of my second cycle as a way to progress it, instead of a increasing testosterone higher considering I have had a flare up at the current dose of 300mg Test E, and increase test by 50mg, once primo reaches 250mg and rinse and repeat this like you suggested to Phillip on a earlier post on your log? Cheers

[Paul]

Hi Calum, great to have you on here! Does your maximum tolerable dose of testosterone increase once you add in a DHT derivative like primo or once you’ve found your max tolerable dose does it never change?

I’m on my first cycle and and my blood work showed the testosterone I’ve been using is under dosed, so a week ago I increased the dose to put my testosterone in the range 300mg should roughly put me at and have noticed more spots appearing on my back. I haven’t gained any water weight and no gyno scare, so as far as I’m aware my E2 is fine but could this be a sign that im at/over my maximum dose tolerable or just my body adjusting to the increase and just having an outbreak? Cheers

[Paul]

I hav a first class honours degree in sports therapy and nutrition – I competed while at uni and helped people for free for around a year plus.

I then did additional nutrition certificate with the NHs and worked for the NHS learning for around 8 years.

I am not a PT and have never been one.

I would definitely suggest looking into some serious qualifications both in terms of college/university and the courses above.

Knowledge and experience are key to getting results. Results are key to building your business and getting clients.

Just my take on it an how I did things

Thanks Hilly appreciate the reply!

[Paul]

It’s not a terrible reading from test. Potentially dosed 60-70%

I’m getting bloods done on current Rohm test E this weekend so keep eye on those before making the decision to switch

I would look to increase omega 3 dosing to try get that HDL up. Around 10g daily

Estrogen is a touch high. Not bad for that test dose tho as it’s always in relation to testosterone

So if no high estro sides then your gd.

I would certainly Increase current dose to get the reading you want yes

What is your injection frequency

As Estrogen is then going to go up also with increasing the dose

Hey mate thanks for the reply!
Will be sure to keep an eye out for that, will increase my omega asap and in my post above no estro sides as of yet (I think).
I’m pinning daily, would you increase the test to the top end of what good test would yield? If so that would be doubling what I’m taking at the minute to 600mg until the end of my cycle.
Then assuming your Rohm is dosed correctly, would you start the next cycle of Rohm test at 350mg as technically from my bloods I would have only been on what 300mg should give me despite the higher dose taken from my current lab to get the more accurate reading?[/quote]

Its really impossible to say

We expect/think we expect to see around 70/80 per 300ml and your seeing 50 – So I think based on this going to 450mg would put you close enough and were I would go.

The next cycle if the ROHM is dose correctly I would either go 400-450mg test or IMHO I would go 300mg test and 150mg primo/mast based on results

This is just a guide as I do not know you in terms of physique level or how your cycle will pan out.

if this cycle is fantastic and results fly then in reality there is no need to up the cycle dose next time – Potentially play about with the make up of the cycle – 200mg test/150mg primo for example

If your in a rush to make the most gains possible then increasing the dose as I suggested may be a good step. Its a personal choice

I just see no point in simply increasing 50mg – Even make a big enough change to make a significant difference or dont make one at all.

This is of course just my opinion.[/quote]
Perfect thanks Hilly!

[Paul]

It’s not a terrible reading from test. Potentially dosed 60-70%

I’m getting bloods done on current Rohm test E this weekend so keep eye on those before making the decision to switch

I would look to increase omega 3 dosing to try get that HDL up. Around 10g daily

Estrogen is a touch high. Not bad for that test dose tho as it’s always in relation to testosterone

So if no high estro sides then your gd.

I would certainly Increase current dose to get the reading you want yes

What is your injection frequency

As Estrogen is then going to go up also with increasing the dose

Hey mate thanks for the reply!

Will be sure to keep an eye out for that, will increase my omega asap and in my post above no estro sides as of yet (I think).

I’m pinning daily, would you increase the test to the top end of what good test would yield? If so that would be doubling what I’m taking at the minute to 600mg until the end of my cycle.

Then assuming your Rohm is dosed correctly, would you start the next cycle of Rohm test at 350mg as technically from my bloods I would have only been on what 300mg should give me despite the higher dose taken from my current lab to get the more accurate reading?

[Paul]

This looks perfect bud,

Generally 300 mg test per week should yield around this. Or slightly more if anything.

So it might be a little bit under.

When using 300 mg you should be expecting around 80 imo tbh

Thanks Kuba, would you recommend trying a different lab (thinking Rohm) or use the rest of the test I’ve got from the current lab?

May sound like a stupid question but would there be in any harm in increasing the dose with the current test I have to yield the higher nmol you would expect from 300mg until I’ve used it up and then use another brand and do 350mg of there stuff for when I want to progress the cycle further (assuming there’s is dosed correctly)? Thanks again [/quote]

Now you had the blood work done and you know no harm in bumping up

And then switching to another lab

I don’t recommend any labs at all bud as you just never know until you try. Especially with experience I’ve had this year I don’t trust anything at all these days haha

Which lab are you using now [/quote]Thanks mate, Crown pharma I’m currently using. I’ve got enough to last me at the current dose until the end of my cycle, so I could just stay with what I’m doing until my cruise and get a new lab in for my next blast
Also just for future ref what sort of level estro to test ratio would you start to worry about? [/quote]

Go off feel buddy, references I do not like as they are references for normal people not people using anabolics

Water retention too high and gyno = too much estro

If you don’t get the above

We good ? [/quote]
Yeah makes total sense, I’m not holding any water and I feel pretty much just as lean as when I started my cycle and I’ve gained 23 pounds so far.

I did get some irritation last week in one of my nipples where it went puffy for a couple days but I put this down to a bad pin in the chest as it was pretty sore where I had pinned and as soon as the soreness went the puffyness went.

I’m not sure you will be able to answer this as I don’t know if you’ve experienced gyno on yourself, but other than the sensitive/itchy nips can you feel it happening? I’ve had a dull ache a couple times but thought that could be a pec strain or a dodgy pin! Thanks Kuba

[Paul]

This looks perfect bud,

Generally 300 mg test per week should yield around this. Or slightly more if anything.

So it might be a little bit under.

When using 300 mg you should be expecting around 80 imo tbh

Thanks Kuba, would you recommend trying a different lab (thinking Rohm) or use the rest of the test I’ve got from the current lab?

May sound like a stupid question but would there be in any harm in increasing the dose with the current test I have to yield the higher nmol you would expect from 300mg until I’ve used it up and then use another brand and do 350mg of there stuff for when I want to progress the cycle further (assuming there’s is dosed correctly)? Thanks again [/quote]

Now you had the blood work done and you know no harm in bumping up

And then switching to another lab

I don’t recommend any labs at all bud as you just never know until you try. Especially with experience I’ve had this year I don’t trust anything at all these days haha

Which lab are you using now [/quote]Thanks mate, Crown pharma I’m currently using. I’ve got enough to last me at the current dose until the end of my cycle, so I could just stay with what I’m doing until my cruise and get a new lab in for my next blast

Also just for future ref what sort of level estro to test ratio would you start to worry about?

[Paul]

This looks perfect bud,

Generally 300 mg test per week should yield around this. Or slightly more if anything.

So it might be a little bit under.

When using 300 mg you should be expecting around 80 imo tbh

Thanks Kuba, would you recommend trying a different lab (thinking Rohm) or use the rest of the test I’ve got from the current lab?

May sound like a stupid question but would there be in any harm in increasing the dose with the current test I have to yield the higher nmol you would expect from 300mg until I’ve used it up and then use another brand and do 350mg of there stuff for when I want to progress the cycle further (assuming there’s is dosed correctly)? Thanks again

[Paul]

Not sure if some more information would help, my mate has been on the exact same cycle as me and his test gave a similar reading of 51.4 nmol, thanks guys

[Paul]

Hey buddy, I am a huge fan of arm day. I trained arms separately throughout my entire bodybuilding career until the last few years where I started to run a PPL split and personally I didn’t notice any change in my arms. They certainly didn’t get any smaller but in terms of getting bigger it was definitely minimal. I always found I struggled to get blood in them after doing a huge push or pull session before. I’ve been training arms separately again for the past 12 months and my arms are the biggest they’ve been and I’m running the lowest gear I’ve ever run. I don’t lift as heavy, I do very high volume, pump them up massive in the gym then go home, eat and rest them. Plus is anyones arms too big in bodybuilding? I’m not sure that’s a negative thing haha

Thanks for the reply Louis, So do you still hit arms on push and pull or just put all your volume on your arm day and how many sets and exercises do you tend to do on your arm day? Agreed, arms can never be too big!

[Paul]

If you enjoy a arm day, do a arm day? it’s gives me a pump I just cannot achieve if I tag them on the end of stuff.

A full arm day definitely is good for achieving a pump haha!