[Paul]

Bumping this post! Has anyone tried it & how would you go about dosing a 20mg tab?

[Paul]

Paul, I would also suggest having a look at why your lower back doesn’t allow you to perform a hinge and quad compound in same session.

Pick movements that allow you to do this, or have a look at any movement inefficiencies you have that are making your lower back the limiting factor/injury risk.

I don’t want to overstay my welcome here but two things we can generalise is

A) if you find yourself lean forward when performing a squat (even a bodyweight one), then you will want to work on abduction, hip flexion to create space and reduce compressive force on lower back.

B) If you find hinges awkward, then you will want to work on adduction and hip extension to create posterior pelvic space.

Doing your hinges and squat variations will help with this but if you are unable to do both in same session, then consider learning about ways to address the things above with mobility/additional strength work.

Thanks for the detailed response Stephen, very much appreciated!

[Paul]

I also love the narrative change from the , how do you fit something into what you think is high total work ( fatigue based question ) , to then lower back pumps , to then injury lol .

You are the absolute bang on number 2 , you are number 2 . Welcome to the show number 2 come on downnnnn

Was it a fatigue based question or did I say lower back doesn’t allow?

When do I say I think the volume is high?

Did I not ask where else you would put the volume so I could still do the total volume?

You’ve read into my question the way you’ve wanted to and assumed it’s about me not wanting to do the work and call me lazy, rather than give solid advice – which ironically is lazy 😂

[Paul]

The part you seem to be missing bud, is just the ok I’m on it . That part , the part no one can seem to do anymore

Hinging every lower is person dependant , try jt and see

Thsts exactly why I’m on your members site asking the question, I’ve tried it since September and I’m coming on here with my individual feedback to the guideline you gave to someone and saying hinging & quad compound simply hasn’t worked for me… it’s not that I don’t want to do it? It’s not a case of person 2 worried too much about fatigue and not training hard like the story you put up on IG just after I asked this Q, it’s about avoiding injury, so I can keep training hard and continue to grow my legs mate

[Paul]

Brill, won’t let me add photos 😂 anyway not trying to shy away or do anything different, I’m using the guidelines you put out on your q&a

Ask me a question
Isn’t 15 sets for lower very high when hitting again in 3 sleeps?
5 for quad
4 for ham
4 for glute
2 for adductor
?

Ask me a question
how often would you recommend a hinge in u/l
Every other lower is a good option

[Paul]

What am I missing here? Am I literally not doing what you’ve said in these screenshots on your Q&A 😂

[Paul]

Just literally add the hinge , that’s it , that’s all you have to do . Or don’t …..

Oh so the rest of the sesh is looking ok? Just add a hinge to both rotations?

[Paul]

On UL rest , why doesn’t it ? Your volume for leg work is so low !? It doesn’t in ppl very often as it’s more volume so less frequency . At this super low volume why can’t You hinge in lower ?

Start with weaknesses , general guideline , do things often next guideline . Just get it done ( the hinge ) , going to call that one a a rule , not a guideline

It just fills up like a balloon after any hinge…, I thought 15 sets of leg work (5 quad, 4 ham, 4 glute, 2 adductor) was a fair amount 😂 where are you adding volume to these sessions? Plz help about to go and train legs and confused now haha

[Paul]

Thanks guys

[Paul]

I’m with kuba here and very much like that myself. I have to run low test and high mast/primo. Used npp in the past but honestly didn’t like how I felt on it mentally so dropped it and haven’t used it since

Have you ever used nandrolone?

Hey Haider, yes I have used it actually I forgot to mention that in the message above I used NPP instead of Deca, it was only a short 4 weeks or so as the cycle got messy and my prolactin was high so I stopped the cycle short

[Paul]

Your issue here is not test it’s self it’s just high aromatisation rates,

Low dose test

Mast

Nandrolone

Would work incredibly well instead and you’d feel better as opposed to no test base.

Using dbol and anadrol you are basically taking test, so I would just do 150’mg test as a base instead,

Drugs alone you won’t really recomp well, diet for first half hard to lose some bf and then bring it up a touch.

No as for 1 the Dbol is providing the E2 you need and in general masteron doesn’t really lower E2 that much it just helps prevent sides from E2 in most –

Y can be run prior to cardio yes.

I see no place for clen unless you are dieting personally [/quote]
Cool thanks Peter, I’ve seen some people run HCG alongside nandrolone only to keep the testies alive lol what do you think of this?

Also I’ve seen posts saying your HPTA can be shut down for almost a year after using a 19-NOR as it stays in your system for a long time and therefore potentially stopping you being able to complete a proper PCT and having to cruise until it’s out of your system. Is this true?

I’ve used a 19-NOR before but a while ago, I’ve started to plan an exit away from peds so this will be my second to last cycle, I’ve always used a test base to what I can handle and then added primo/mast to increase the cycle from there apart from that I’ve used a tiny amount of Tren & Anavar in a diet phase. So for these last cycles I fancy trying different ways of building a stack and chucking a few orals in but I am aware that there are better ways to run your stack

[Paul]

Have you ever thought of using eq with a small amount of test or just with primo or mast

Never tried EQ, just been reading about it. This could be a good option rather than having the DHT compounds high as hair is a concern! I can’t find too much on doses on this forum but a quick google says 300-600mg is a good place to have EQ. Would you agree?

[Paul]

Your issue here is not test it’s self it’s just high aromatisation rates,

Low dose test

Mast

Nandrolone

Would work incredibly well instead and you’d feel better as opposed to no test base.

Using dbol and anadrol you are basically taking test, so I would just do 150’mg test as a base instead,

Drugs alone you won’t really recomp well, diet for first half hard to lose some bf and then bring it up a touch.

Thanks for the reply Kuba! I think the Nandrolone only option really appealed to me based the hair loss front however I guess like you say Dbol is basically test so the issue wouldn’t be avoided. When you say bring it up a touch can you clarify what you mean? Cheers mate

[Paul]

Have to try it for yourself, but some guys do great on it. Personally, it completely killed my libido so I had to add test back in. This was NPP only

Ahh thanks for sharing your experience!

[Paul]

Personally I would favour NPP. I just feel better on it and many others report the same.

I would opt for dbol over anadrol

If your prone to gyno issues you may very well run into the same issues here tho.

When I have done this before I preferred to run 3-400mg mast with the NPP. This seemed to improve the overall look n day to day feel.

Sounds good thanks for the heads up with Anadrol.

Would you need to watch Mast lowering your E2 considering there isn’t any test in this cycle and what are your thoughts with Clen & Yohimbine in this scenario? Thanks 😊