[kano2020]

Hi jordan hope your well…
i had a QQ : the KLOW BLEND, i have seen on line mixing GHKCU with other peptides ruins it? best to take separately, any truth in this? ive personally had no ISSUE with the KLOW blend from proforma

[kano2020]

Hi JP, been reading this thread a lot since logging the peps (mito stack)
have ever felt like you were over spinning your mitochondria? if so did u just pull back?
ive read SS31 helps with removed the damaged mitochondria, is that why you run that dose higher then the mot C etc

[kano2020]

HI brother, with your stack i see your running test,mast,winny,halo…
love that combo, have you pulled tren due to the use of halo?

[kano2020]

Hi mark your updates have seen a noticeable change , fuller , drier , harder and leaner …

Since working with Patrick what would you say the main changes / differences are with how your physique has progressed dramatically

[kano2020]

Hi joe hope your well…
i been reading through this thread, been absolutely incredible to follow.
I had a question on your prep with Patrick, i noticed you didn’t utilize tren/winstrol for the prep, but more so anavar/halo… what was the thought process behind that? personal preference? or something Patrick advised,

[kano2020]

This is an awesome thread ! With your morning / daily walks are you tracking steps this time / amount your looking to hiit or is it simply. Just go for the duration of walk

[kano2020]

Hi Jp, i noticed with your anabolic stack your using orals right of the bat, vs say no orals and low dose tren, whats your thought process behind that

[kano2020]

Hi marc hope your well?
With the post workout shake, i know this is something most people do not believe in/do…. and just eat a meal,
have you noticed any difference with keeping in a shake post gym this time round?

[kano2020]

Hi jordan, with your peptides (specifically mot c) do you notice any skin irritation/redness after using it for some time? noticed this from sub q shots, but i know you do it IM, so not sure if that’s the issue, was never happening before.

[kano2020]

Pull today busy busy day with client work, A really solid session today but I have started coming down with a cold. Hopefully just a head cold and I recover quickly as I have 2 shows both days for the next 2 weekends, so long busy days ahead!

Hi nath hope your well? with your SS31 being at 500mcg, is their any reason why thats on the lower side? i have read quite a few people run it at 1mg+ as that is one peptide you see more potential benefits with higher end of dosaging?

[kano2020]

In terms of Mito and then Reta , today :

1mg mots
2mg ss31
500mcg 5 amino 1 mq
300mcg slu
100mg nad
10mg meth blue

All on wake, 250mcg reta too

Another 300mcg slu 5 hours later before the session + a couple sprays of a ss31 nasal spray. I mixed 10mg in a nasal spray with 6ml , so each pump gives 160ish mcg , took a couple before the session

I will then take 250mcg reta later.

Those doses don’t feel like it is over cranking at alllll and I feel like I didn’t get tired at all in my session !

Fasted bg was 4.6

12iu gh pre , 100mcg des pre , 100mcg lr3 post

Gear is test at 2:1 , I’m building my way to 4g total I will be there in the next few weeks and then that’s my peak

Hi Jp, with the ss31, ghcku, and nad+ does it make a difference whether you take it on wake or before bed?

[kano2020]

Rest today

So the last couple days I pulled back on the Mito stack and Reta again, and say a jump in fullness instantly ! So it’s clear in offseason it’s a balancing act .

I will just say what I’m thinking as I go , I have said a lot it takes a long time to figure out how best to use stuff like this, so I’m at no point suggesting I’m there yet , but it has to fit the goal !

So the offseason goal is max muscle , but also maintain health . Initially I thought we could out eat the stack and ramp the doses and maximise health but it defo can be way overcooked

I lowered it a couple times again and now going to lower again, basically back to my baseline I first went in on them at and the one I liked the most when I dieted , as this way we get all the insulin sensitivity benefits/ lipid / heart / kidney benefits but without the sinkhole energy deficit

So now lowering to the below

1mg mots
1mg ss31
500mcg 5 amino
50mg nad +
500mg L carn ( Pf have one and a nad that doesn’t sting !!)

It’s funny how it’s gone from this to pushing higher in a diet and not liking it and then pushing higher in an offseason and also not liking it based solely on the goal of fullness / progress . The energy and focus is high , but the use has to fit the goal

Now it’s there ! That stack could defo be ran for much longer periods at those doses

With your NAD+ i can see thats daily, is this still effective 2-3x per week?

[kano2020]

Kano

Gc1 at 50-100mcg a day
Slu pp oral at 4-6 x 300mcg Caps / day
Ss31 3mg a day
Mots c 2mg a day
5 amino 1 mq 2mg a day
Reta Upto 1mg a day
100mcg igf lr3 pwo

2mg Tesamorelin + 250mcg ipam , before bed

500mcg aod9604 on wake

500mg inject l carn pre
Workout

That whole stack would be fuckinf insane and you would be absolutely peeled 😂

ordering.. no need to say anymore lol

[kano2020]

Nath with the additions of your peptide stack, SS31, Mot C , bpc etc.
did you notice any water retention from any of these initially?

[kano2020]

In terms of ultimate : mito/ fat loss stack when it comes to peptides what would be your go to?
Will be getting some pro forma stuff & going full bore lol