Rich Ellis
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I think it depends what the rest of your loading looks like
For example, if you have a deadlift variation in, the answer may be different to if you don’t
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Agree with the gang. Further, could well be doing yourself a favour to reset between reps, especially as you fatigue. It’s easy for form to start to slip at the end of a set, this should help maintain movement integrity
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I think the spread of answers shows that there’s no exact science to this.
As Jamie said, go with what you feel fits you best, BUT, that may not be a movement on this piece at all.
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My second push session, which is more of a delts and tris as I leave my chest out of it
Cuff laterals
Smith OH press
Rope overhead
KennellysGood session, numbers moving the right way and appear to be managing my shoulders
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Rest day today gang.
Rest of the week is totally messed up because of closure days next week, so it’s just a case of smashing it and worrying about recovery afterwards
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As with most of this – why?
Assess your goals. Assess the nutritional profile to optimise teaching said goals. Implement nutrition plan
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Legs today guys
Prone curl
Linear leg press
45 deg Leg Press
Smith squat
GHRThis will now be interesting as I don’t have long to recover until my lower back loading session – we shall see!
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My opinion is that it would need to be meticulously programmed
It’s very common in weightlifting, quite common in other strength sports, but these are performance focussed, segmented, and very rarely maximal
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Good pressing session today
Took things a touch further butvwas still sure to stop shy of failure on the free weight movements
Chest press machine
Dip machine (chest)
Decline bench
Shallow incline DB pressLegs tomorrow, then resting Thursday
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There’s a lot of personal preference in de-load
My preference would be to stick with the legs/push/pull, but just do the three sessions in the first week, drop the volume to just the back off set, 2 reps in reserve
The second week I would stay with the 3 sessions per week but move back to the two sets. 2 RIR on the loaded set, 1 RIR on the back off set
Week after, back to full frequency and full flow
If you feel you need a total week off, just do one of the above and then back to full flow
That’s how I’d choose to do it
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On a rest day today guys. Yesterday wiped me a bit so I’m glad it’s fallen here
Pressing tomorrow????????
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What do YOU want to do? What’s the end goal? What look are you chasing, or is Performance more important?
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Today was my lower back loading day
Second week back squatting after a long hiatus – did 3 sets of 5
Return of RDL – again 5’s, but progressives sets and paused
Then attempted barbell rows which was too much so will do these as a dead stop row moving forwards
Rest tomorrow, which will be much needed!
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Rich Ellis
MemberDecember 15, 2019 at 4:39 pm in reply to: What would your cut off rep range be? @jpHi mate
Pretty much everyone agrees that if you work to positive failure, the last 5 reps of the set are the “stimulating reps”. That can be a set of 5, up to 20-25.
With that, logic tells us that anything under 5 reps is denying us stimulating reps, and as Clare said, it’s more likely to cook your CNS.
That said, going down to 3’s can add value if you are focussing on strength development, although at that point we’d probably be having a discussion around whether you want to be going to failure.
In short, as long as you know why you’re doing what you’re doing, there probably isn’t a wrong way to do it, but understand what your focus of the block isThat’s actually really interesting about the final 5 reps being stimulating reps, I’ve never thought of it like that or even heard it like that. Definitely be making a few tweaks and changes to my next training block – cheers mate!
One last thing, Would you say when going for around 3 reps on a one off basis, you’d avoid going to failure? Or only if it’s on a consistent basis?
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Hi mateGlad that was useful. One of my videos talks about stimulating reps, you might find it interesting
Regarding the 3 rep sets, it really depends what your key objective is and what your training experience with the movement is.
There will be times where there’s merit to it, and times where there is not
I’m sorry to give such a wishy washy answer, but so much depends on a vast number of factors.
If you have factored it in, it can work
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Rich Ellis
MemberDecember 14, 2019 at 8:34 pm in reply to: What would your cut off rep range be? @jpHi mate
Pretty much everyone agrees that if you work to positive failure, the last 5 reps of the set are the “stimulating reps”. That can be a set of 5, up to 20-25.
With that, logic tells us that anything under 5 reps is denying us stimulating reps, and as Clare said, it’s more likely to cook your CNS.
That said, going down to 3’s can add value if you are focussing on strength development, although at that point we’d probably be having a discussion around whether you want to be going to failure.
In short, as long as you know why you’re doing what you’re doing, there probably isn’t a wrong way to do it, but understand what your focus of the block is