[04Lifter]

You NEED Lantus for GH pulses to be effectively converted into igf

Workout perimeter insulin is dose is dependant on blood glucose , use what you need to have BG steady at around 5.5-6 nmol/L mid session . I currently need none at the perimeter as my BG isn’t high at any point

Ok this makes a lot of sense, thanks heaps for your help

[04Lifter]

Once a day Lantus is great

How would I adjust my pre and post workout insulin, or should I just use pre and post fast acting and no lantus or no pre and post and lantus or still use pre and post but lower it a decent bit, because I have very high carb meals pre and post workout and if I was to lower my pre and post how much would I lower the insulin by do you think

• This reply was modified 8 months, 3 weeks ago by  04Lifter.

[04Lifter]

Lantus will mean your GH pulse is better utilised so at 18 iu , yes

Splitting means more anabolism , but also more risk if insulin resistance, however with reta and mito stack , and then Lantus , you will be fine to split it .

And no to the water , only way would be lower test to cover baseline igf needs ( 700 ) , bridge the gap with nandrolone ( 550) , keep the eq at 750 for e2 control . This will see e2 lower and again is a more anabolic cycle , nandrolone aromatises much less than testosterone, so you will defo see a gd drop in water doing that

Do you think 10ius lantus in the morning would be good even if I take my hgh pre bed at night or should I split 5 morning 5 night

[04Lifter]

Lantus will mean your GH pulse is better utilised so at 18 iu , yes

Splitting means more anabolism , but also more risk if insulin resistance, however with reta and mito stack , and then Lantus , you will be fine to split it .

And no to the water , only way would be lower test to cover baseline igf needs ( 700 ) , bridge the gap with nandrolone ( 550) , keep the eq at 750 for e2 control . This will see e2 lower and again is a more anabolic cycle , nandrolone aromatises much less than testosterone, so you will defo see a gd drop in water doing that

Sweet as, thanks for the advice I might add in lantus to help with the gh pulse and nutrients, I do love the feel of high test so I’ll just deal with the water retention

[04Lifter]

Yes , a lot of us do / have .

Everything the lesser dose does , but more . That obv comes with the sides too , more water retention , more glucose inhibition and decline in insulin sensitivity

Running 18ius pre bed im, and 1250 test with 750 eq and feel amazing just holding a lot of water, also wondering if you think 18ius im at once is good or should i go 9 im and 9 sub q and if you think lantus would be a good addition

[04Lifter]

Is there a way to mitigate the water retention and do you think lantus is needed at 18ius I am currently running Reta and the mitochondria stack with fasted cardio to help control bg

[04Lifter]

I have 800 carbs per day, 250-300 protein and 30-50 fat

[04Lifter]

I enjoyed eq increased my appetite, felt full all cycle, strength increased just gotta be careful of crashing e2 was on 3/2 test to eq and my e2 was quite low for alittle

[04Lifter]

You would use lantus to lower bg, if someone is not on high doses of hgh and they have bad bg they have an issue with diet or bf or both

[04Lifter]

Add carbs your sitting at the 1.5x bw in pounds for protein which is the sweet spot imo you wanna add carbs to fuel training throughout this bulking phase

[04Lifter]

I’m running my compounds very low on this mock prep to hopefully bump them up and grow on the rebound