[Dean Harvey]

I’ll be the first to say, 120g of potatoes is not a lot of carbs imo. Fair enough your mass shake has carbs in but would fast-acting carbs (like a few handfuls of haribo pre) not be a better protocol alongside slin? Never used so don’t have enough knowledge on it but just from the background given seems a bit off to me

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[Dean Harvey]

Agree with everyone here, if its Ibiza in the sense I’ve done in the past, make sure the test is still in your system whilst you’re there, to try and cling onto whatever you’ve got on a diet of Disco Biscuits & water with the odd kebab thrown in at 8am. PCT when you get back (but you will be in some shitty frame of mind as that test is hitting its lowest might i add).

You’re gonna do it anyways, just run everything for 16 weeks. Problem sorted. Dosages look alright but with no stats to go off, we could be wrong because you could be 5’4” @ 280lbs muscle (but I doubt it haha), which would render such a low dose fairly detrimental. But if you’re ~6’0” and 170lbs then yeah, dosages are fine.

Good luck for the post-ibiza comedown, its gonna be a bumpy fucking ride haha

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[Dean Harvey]

Adding to the above, dbol during a cut could take away from your leanness due to water retention on it.

As for PCT & supplementation, Dr Dean’s Proper PCT Protocol is on Youtube, find that, watch it and it will help you understand what you need. Supplementation for organ support: search the forums, this will have been answered multiple times and I think may even be in a sticky further up.

An oral only cycle sounds like you’re not that serious about this just yet and leaves me to assume you’ve negated the thought of getting bloods done but get them done pre-cycle to give you a baseline of your hormones to go off and get them done post-cycle to ensure you follow the PCT Protocol correctly. Again, I think Dr Dean has also done a sticky on that.

You’ve set your mind to it, you’ve done your research, you decide whats best mate

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[Dean Harvey]

Thanks guys, i’ll check out that gel for any future issues

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[Dean Harvey]

Best preworkout nootropic-wise from Insight is MVPre (back in stock at 4pm today I’m told with 2 new flavours and an upgraded panel). But its caffeine heavy (350mg) which you’ve already said you can’t tolerate (although its likely one of the best legal nootropics available). Honestly, my focus on that product is second to none. I literally zone out from everything.

Another good one is Utopia (no pump stuff in it) but again, caffeine heavy-ish (200mg).

The ingredients that these 2 both share are: Choline & Huperzine A. So could be good ingredients to look out for in a non-caffeine based Nootropic

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[Dean Harvey]

No I didn’t miss it, I read and acknowledge his post.

I will check out insight supps mate thanks.

The other thing that puts me off about supplement needs is that I’ve seen a few posts where people haven’t received their stuff and have had to chase it up and with poor customer feedback.

Fair enough, I’ve never had that issue with them yet so can only speak from experience. But we all have our preferred suppliers. Mine used to be MyProtein, cheap & cheerful. Their protein was ok and done the job but most other things were gash. Since moved onto branded supps (which costs me a fortune might i add) and feel like I get a lot more quality for my money. But don’t get me wrong, I’ve ordered products from branded suppliers and found them to also be gash. Trial and error with everything, brands can have 1 great product (as JP has said before) and the rest can be awful. Its finding the products you like within your budget and using them when necessary.

Give me a shout if you fancy something off Insight Supps and want to know what its like. If I’ve tried it I’ll give you my take on it. Also: TMC10 gets you 10% discount off your shop on Insight year round

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[Dean Harvey]

What carb powders were you using bro? Have you tried sustain? It’s so good wirh me and my digestion is usually poor too!
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At present I’m using Axe & Sledge DemoDay. Sits well, tastes good, 2 scoops per session. Will likely try Sustain at some point though

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[Dean Harvey]

Agree with everyone. From 14yrs old, I trained 5 days a week with weightlifting sometimes twice a day and boxed 5 nights a week. I thought: the more work i do in the gym, the bigger i’ll get.

This is not the case. Size comes from diet. You’ve got to get a bit chubby at first and chip away at the fat later to see any real improvement. And that is the most difficult thing for us to do because we love being lean but we also love being big. You have to first get big (with a bit extra bodyfat unfortunately) and then get lean and try to hang onto that mass.

Use JP’s diet planner, try to follow it to the letter and expect to get huge, but don’t expect to stay lean. People will comment mainly good things when you get big and then better things when you get lean (and retain some of that size). Trust me, its worth being chubby for a year to get that size

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[Dean Harvey]

I get this every single rest day. I also train in the morning first thing and I put it down to my caffeine/stim intake on a training day (~350mg caffeine anhydrous + others).

A strong coffee helps but I feel like I could fall asleep at any moment. Ordered a nootropic supp to see if the stims in that help on rest days without the need for the pump products in it. I’ll find out on the weekend I guess ????????‍♂️

Hopefully that works as it hasn’t for you haha. On your deload, maybes try deloading your stim intake too? You won’t need your pre if you’re not training but a full break from caffeine may also help when you finish your deload. Just a thought. Done the same when I took a full week off followed by 3 weeks of light training (doctor’s orders, not my plan!). Served me well when I jumped back on the stims

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[Dean Harvey]

i would also recommend changing when u do cardio as post workout is far from ideal as it is mentioned in the topic bellow this one currently.

please no 1 get offended but there is always time to do it away from the workout because ur still spending same time doing cardio just not bumped on end of a session, stop p/w cardio save that time to get home eat do the norm stuff u do n go bed a bit earlier n get up bit earlier.
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I’d much rather implement cardio in the form of a nice walk with my other half than in the gym on a treadmill. Far too tired to be sticking it postworkout, sounds like hell!

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[Dean Harvey]

Ok

I will go for 220gr of prots, 440gr of carbs and 100gr of fats

Thank you !

I’m currently following the planner and, although it is A LOT of protein (especially on training days), I find it to be working really well. I don’t feel overly stuffed, digestion is great, and I am ready for each meal on Rest Days.

However, I used my lean body mass to calculate the macros (about 155lbs LBM) as opposed to using total bodyweight (about 203lbs total BW). Maybes this is the difference between it being too much protein and just right? Only time will tell, as I’ve only implemented it this week.

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[Dean Harvey]

Keep sleep solid, eat before bed and train fasted – always favour digestion as it will only hinder you’re sessions if you don’t ????
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Currently doing this. ‘Fasted training’ in the sense that Intra EAA’s & Carbs are started just before the gym and finished throughout with a postworkout shake & banana immediately following (all that classed as Meal 1).

Digestion issues in the gym is the absolute worst. Binned carb powders for this exact reason

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[Dean Harvey]

For health supps – supplement needs/amazon

For pre workouts and proteins –
branded – sup needs

Good quality cheaper – bulk powders

fact is bulk powders stuff is very good no doubt and cheaper – their protein powders are fantastic, tested and good quality. I have used their beef iso for years and tried the yamamoto one a couple of months ago and they are identical in every way just more expensive.

In terms of pre workouts – theres are ok but pale in comparison to something like prepare as do their intra powders but its a ‘you get what you pay for’ kind of things.

I put links to both sup needs and bulk powders for all my clients and let them choose based on budget. Not many want to spend all there free cash on expensive supps the same as not all would spend what I do on sunglasses lol. that doesn’t mean you cant get decent ones cheaper
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Thanks mate that’s a fair point well made.

Listen I’d love to support jp and supplement needs by spending my money on their stuff but the simple fact is their products are out of my reach and I’m not a pro bodybuilder so I don’t need such high quality as some athletes do.

Yamamoto is simply too expensive – 55 quid for 2kg is out of my reach, I can get 2kg of 95% isolate for 35 quid from bodybuilding warehouse and it digests very well for me. Occasionally when I’m feeling flush I’ll try the more expensive brands – tried mutant iso and dymatize but hated the taste so it’s back to BBW proteins for now.

Pre workout I don’t tolerate caffeine so I have tried heaps of pre workout and settled on nootropics which work better for me.

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I think you missed where hilly said Bulk Powders & Yamamoto are identical, except Yamamoto is more expensive.

Insightsupps is my regular supplier of most supps (preworkouts, nootropics, carb powders, protein powders). Supplement needs for health supps (vit d3 + k2, liver stack, kidney & bp stack, intra eaa’s)

Supplement needs health supps are ‘expensive’ but they last forever. You get so much value for money, rarely ever get a 30 serving tub. So when you break it down into servings, its more than competitive and great quality

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[Dean Harvey]

That’d be what I’d do mate. Unless you currently have quite a lot of tissue already, I wouldn’t see much worth wasting your first time on fresh receptors for a cut, when you’d see a much more noticeable difference when trying to add mass on your first try

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[Dean Harvey]

An amount of fats is necessary for your body to take in certain vitamins.

If I was you, I’d listen less to Brandon Harding & more to the likes of TMCycles. Brandon’s proved to be a bit clueless since coming out about his steroid use (like we didn’t already know). He is in great shape, but his knowledge of how is piss poor.

When he told everyone he takes 1 Arimidex tablet everyday and explained it as an ‘Estrogen decreaser that protects against side effects’. Just a ridiculous person influencing his following in such a bad way. I’d steer well clear of what he says and just enjoy seeing his physique transform if I was you because you won’t learn much from him

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