[Ege Kuter]

It’s not worth using having it pin this much imo

Thinking of keeping L-Carn to just quad/glute, alternating every 4 days at 2.5mL. Adding 2 fresh sites to my gear rotation so nothing overlaps. Not bumping the L-Carn dose to 1g. Also gonna look into getting a different (higher conc) L-Carn. Thoughts?

[Ege Kuter]

what are the ranges on your labs?

for FT3 1.16-4.60 ng/L

for FT4 0.7-1.48 ng/dL

for TSH 0.35-4.94 mIU/L[/quote]

With these labs, should I start with 25 mcg T3 + 100 mcg T4 and run it year round ?

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What are you currently doing? Growing ? Dieting ?

These are defo low normal.

How old are you
Time training ?
Have you tried to naturally improve these[/quote]

Currently at the end of growth phase and about to start dieting.

I’m 19.

Training age is around 5 years.

I haven’t specifically tried to improve these naturally.

[Ege Kuter]

what are the ranges on your labs?

for FT3 1.16-4.60 ng/L

for FT4 0.7-1.48 ng/dL

for TSH 0.35-4.94 mIU/L[/quote]

With these labs, should I start with 25 mcg T3 + 100 mcg T4 and run it year round ?

[Ege Kuter]

Worldwide Eq is just as popular as DHT are in a prep environment and have been used extensively for decades in reality.

Both work very well indeed, its about finding what suits you in all areas.

Drug availability
Drug cost
How you respond to each drug etc

Eq works very well for this goal if you respond well to it

Thanks Peter. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but with EQ would you base the dose on avoiding an E2 crash, or would you just directly run a 2:1 test to EQ ratio ?

[Ege Kuter]

what are the ranges on your labs?

for FT3 1.16-4.60 ng/L

for FT4 0.7-1.48 ng/dL

for TSH 0.35-4.94 mIU/L

[Ege Kuter]

Hey buddy, I use a 1” for all injections no matter which site. I do however stay fairly lean.

Thanks Louis

[Ege Kuter]

Keep it consistent daily, so first thing fasted before caffeine too.
Take 2 reading around 3-5mins apart.

You can also do pm checks if there are any concerns.

Do you mean 2 readings total, one on the right and one on the left, or 2 readings on each arm?

[Ege Kuter]

POTASSIUM (g/day)

Bodyweight | Natural | Enhanced

50 kg | 4.5–5.5 g | 7.0–9.0 g60 kg | 5.0–6.0 g | 8.0–10.0 g70 kg | 5.5–6.5 g | 9.0–11.0 g80 kg | 6.0–7.0 g | 10.0–12.0 g90 kg | 6.5–7.5 g | 11.0–13.0 g100 kg | 7.0–8.0 g | 12.0–14.0 g110 kg | 7.5–8.5 g | 13.0–15.0 g120 kg | 8.0–9.0 g | 14.0–16.0 g130 kg | 8.5–9.5 g | 15.0–17.0 g140 kg | 9.0–10.0 g | 16.0–18.0 g

Seems way to high for me, I dont know much about this guy apart from he is a huge potassium fan but I am yet to notice much of any difference personally when I have driven my potassium intake up to see[/quote]

I also saw this post where he recommends potassium:sodium ratios depending on the phase:

Off-season (natural): 1.5:1 to 2.5:1
Off-season (enhanced): 1.5:1 to 3:1
Growth phase with high insulin: 2:1 to 4:1
Contest prep (early): 1.5:1 to 3:1
Contest prep (deep): 1:1 to 2.5:1
Peak week stabilization: 1:1 to 2:1
Carb loading phase: 1:1 to 1.8:1
Stage contest manipulation: anywhere from 0.8:1 to 2:1 depending on sodium handling

Do you think these ratios actually matter ?

[Ege Kuter]

I get away with a 12.7Mm one but my quad are very deep and i push it in quiet hard so it leaves an indent and even than occasionally I still get a touch of inflammation. So may need a longer one depending on quad size/fat levels

Thanks Peter

[Ege Kuter]

Also, should MOTS-c and SLU-PP-332 be injected IM or subq?

And timing wise, when would be to take them ? before fasted cardio in the morning, pre-workout, later in the day, or does timing not matter much?

Thanks a lot guys

[Ege Kuter]

POTASSIUM (g/day)

Bodyweight | Natural | Enhanced

50 kg | 4.5–5.5 g | 7.0–9.0 g
60 kg | 5.0–6.0 g | 8.0–10.0 g
70 kg | 5.5–6.5 g | 9.0–11.0 g
80 kg | 6.0–7.0 g | 10.0–12.0 g
90 kg | 6.5–7.5 g | 11.0–13.0 g
100 kg | 7.0–8.0 g | 12.0–14.0 g
110 kg | 7.5–8.5 g | 13.0–15.0 g
120 kg | 8.0–9.0 g | 14.0–16.0 g
130 kg | 8.5–9.5 g | 15.0–17.0 g
140 kg | 9.0–10.0 g | 16.0–18.0 g

[Ege Kuter]

Have you added something to this because I can’t see anything attatched here Ege..

I did upload the screenshot, but it looks like it’s not showing on your end.The chart I’m referring to is from Adam Omachy and it’s based on bodyweight/kg dosing.

[Ege Kuter]

I don’t want to overcomplicate it, but I saw this chart from Adam Omachy. Can I use this ?

[Ege Kuter]

250 mcg slU

500 mcg mots c

Both fasted will be an epic start point then titrate as you need

I don’t see need for slU going above 1.5 mg ish I then see it become almost counter productive with most

There are some that obviously may see it different that’s just what I see my self and with a lot of real life cases with clients

Is the 250 mcg SLU dose oral or injectable? Or does it make a difference in dosage whether it’s oral or injectable?

[Ege Kuter]

would you take both of them before fasted cardio ?
Thanks everyone