[Hilly]

If your taking it to aid in the gym sessions and getting these issues then I personally would not bother using it, its not something I have ever thought enough merit to bother with pre workout

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Thank you Meg and Hilly! As I will be looking to end this push not far out of shape from where I would like to start the next one, those methods for assessing when and how long to pull back for will be very useful.

Just out of curiosity, if a push phase was to end in condition such that you needed a good chunk of time (8-12 + wks) to get back into reasonable shape to start another push from, would you just run cruise doses for this duration since your primary goal is now fat loss? If not, how much would you elevate them from baseline relative to peak offseason? and would you be then cruising after fat loss phase is over in the case that they were elevated, or just transition back to offseason dose as you reverse calories and push back up?

thank you!

In general I would get most of the fat off while cruising yes – however this is person and situation depending. How much muscle they carry, how the cut goes etc etc

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[Hilly]

Thank you Meg and Hilly! As I will be looking to end this push not far out of shape from where I would like to start the next one, those methods for assessing when and how long to pull back for will be very useful.

Just out of curiosity, if a push phase was to end in condition such that you needed a good chunk of time (8-12 + wks) to get back into reasonable shape to start another push from, would you just run cruise doses for this duration since your primary goal is now fat loss? If not, how much would you elevate them from baseline relative to peak offseason? and would you be then cruising after fat loss phase is over in the case that they were elevated, or just transition back to offseason dose as you reverse calories and push back up?

thank you!

I would just run a cruise dose and not a TRT dose – circa 250mg total AAS load

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[Hilly]

I go with

Wait 4 weeks clearance time

5000iu HCG split MWF for 4 weeks – Total 20000iu

Then clomid – 100mg per day for 5 days followed by 25 days at 50mg

Tamoxifin – while running clomid – 20mg per day meal.

This I have found is the simplest way of running a PCT and IME works over and over again if the HPTA is able to recover

So nothing when im on cycle?[/quote]
Not IMO no for reasons Sas stated

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[Hilly]

Wednesday – another rest day as usual on a Wednesday. I will then train thurs and Friday. Knee is a little better but still sore and still limping.

4 meals in today

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Thank you Peter that’s very helpful.

For future reference would you say my oestradiol at 314 pmol/L is excessively high? Should I have done something different to keep this at a lower level?

As nathan said – its very person depending.

If you are not getting any high E2 sides – water retention/gyno/high BP/effected mood/sex drive then to be honest it would not be a concern for me. Personal experience most of the biggest people I have come across are the ones that have been able to have E2 on the higher side.

However as your taking tren in alot of blood tests this can skew E2 reads and cause them to increase so it may well be that and why I didnt mention it in first place.

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – Rest day due to bad knee

2 x 25 minute dog walks

5 meals in –

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I think your a bit skewed with a coach’s job role lol

No coach should be silly enough to help you source drugs as it effects there business due to being illegal

No client should be expecting there coach to hook up there drugs never mind make sure it’s delivered to door lol

As J says Alchemia will hook you up.

A good coach can range from £150 to £500 per month depending

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[Hilly]

As many as you need personally to recover based on volume n your own recovery abilities.

In general 2 on 1 off works for the majority. You may need to tweak it a little

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I would test bloods 3 weeks post clomid use

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I would give 4 week clearance time

Then 5000iu per week split mon/wed / Fri for 4 weeks
Followed by 5 days of 100mg clomid
Followed by 25 days of 50mg clomid

20mg nolva alongside HCG and clomid use daily.

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Thank You guys.

I’m pretty shocked how strong effect it has on a minimum dose of 2.5mg, I think recommended min dose could be lower on it!

My resting heart rate went up about 10bpm which is quite a lot. I’m gonna lower the dose and split MWF

Almost every one finds this. It’s quite scary to think of all these protocols being pushed around advising people to drive up to 6-9mg per week imo.

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[Hilly]

Thank you for the answers. I feel great pump in the gym is amazing, aslo blood pressure is 120/60 heart rate is around 50-55 beats per min at 80 kg so i think to keep it that way for now.

Don’t change a thing imo.

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[Hilly]

Interesting concern actually.

I use the one from proforma and don’t see any issues at all but would be hard to say until J gets results back.

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Monday – Training day

2 x 15 minute dog walks done with a painful limp
Knee is a little better but still very sore.
4 meals in plus peri workout shakes

Training was very make shift easing back in after a week off plus not being able to put much of any weight on the right leg. Plus was tendons around elbows felt much better.

Seated lateral machine – 5 x 8-12
Machine press – 4 x 8-12
seated cable rear delts – 3 x 8-12

Tricep PD – 4 x 8-12
Preacher machine – 4 x 8-12
1 arm Tricep machine – 3 x 8-12
1 arm bicep curl – 3 x 8-12
Tricep metabolic work -2 sets
bicep metabolic work – 2 sets

Overall was great to be back in gym albeit annoying due to leg

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