[Hilly]

As kuba states – these doses are really TRT plus and no a cycle, most can run these year round with no issues at all. This is not an issue in terms of your thinking but more so just to be accurate on the thinking.

There are also no specific doses for people partaking in 1 sport to another. Its all about how you respond and what you are trying to achieve As Kuba says.

there is also little difference in essence to these mixtures of drugs and ratios – its about finding out what puts your hormones in the bet spot to have you feeling good and performing/recovering at your best.

The first question is – Are you looking for a prolonged TRT set up that you can run all the time or looking to cycle up and down around training blocks.

The second question is – how E2 sensitive are you? How do you respond to these ratio of drugs? If you dont know then thats your main focus and would be you work with your coach. To find out what works best for you – in terms of feel/performance/blood work.

Primo in general does lower E2 more directly in most and mast does not so this is a factor – so those that aromatise more may choose primo and those that aromatise less may use mast.

also look to use TBJP vital support/love heart and heart care when using AAS to manage lipids/kidney/liver values etc etc

Always monitor things via blood work over time without a doubt.

the rest cant be answered as they depend on the answers to the above and would be based and data you for out

Yes, my goal is prolonged TRT usage, especially now I’m in my 30s. My training is very endurance-heavy — long mileage, ruck work, heat/altitude, alongside a lot of lifting as well. So my main concern isn’t so much cycling vs TRT+, but avoiding things that negatively impact cardiovascular performance (high hematocrit, water retention, BP strain).

I run bloods every 8 weeks and donate every 8–12 weeks. I’ve also been using TBJP supps consistently for the past few months.

My E2 has never been out of range on bloods, but when I’ve tried 300mg test alone, I felt lethargic and bloated — so I may be slightly prone to E2 sensitivity. That’s why I’ve leaned toward a slightly higher mast/primo balance.

What would you recommend as a good starting point for a TRT+ dose in my case, so I can test and adjust from there based on bloods and performance feedback?

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based on this i would go 200mg test, 100mg primo and run bloods at week 6

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[Hilly]

Thanks for all the replies everyone – the test I have comes in an ampoule – assume I would load both syringes for the week up at the same time?

yup

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[Hilly]

due to the EQ half life you will Likely be fine until you get more oxy or bring the cycle to an end in 4-5 weeks.

I would not be keen on running just test and oxy.

i would also be keeping an eye on your Blood pressure etc with this stack as your potential for running into issues is high.

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Thursday – woke up like I had been hit by a bus as usual post leg day.

3 x puppy walks today.

6 meals in

Trained delts/arms –

1 arm cable laterals – x8, x 9F, x 13F –
Shoulder press – x 8, x 8F, x 14F
standing DB laterals with perfect form – x 8, x8, x 6F with a drop set

Preacher machine – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 8, x8F – this felt great and I just decided to stick here and do more work focusing on form and connection
Tricep extension machine – As above – 5 work sets just the last to failure

Ez bar curl SS with Rope PD – 3 sets to failure same weight.

Very good session – bis focus on connection etc. Pumps were nuts.

food going up again as weight just won’t bloody move

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[Hilly]

I also agree with the above – From 25mcg I just drop it out

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[Hilly]

Personally I would do 100mg primo and 200mg mast with the 250mg test, should not need the adex then as the primo should do all you need to control E2.

if you feel its not you can bump the primo and lower the mast to get things in the right range for you.

Daily subq jabs are totally fine

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[Hilly]

it depends how much you aromatise but at 150mg test i would want 150mg mast not primo.

If it was me I would be looking at a 300mg total dose -likely 175-200mg test to put me a little over range then a picking either primo/mast to make sure E2 was in a a good spot.

alongside the GH –

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[Hilly]

As kuba states – these doses are really TRT plus and no a cycle, most can run these year round with no issues at all. This is not an issue in terms of your thinking but more so just to be accurate on the thinking.

There are also no specific doses for people partaking in 1 sport to another. Its all about how you respond and what you are trying to achieve As Kuba says.

there is also little difference in essence to these mixtures of drugs and ratios – its about finding out what puts your hormones in the bet spot to have you feeling good and performing/recovering at your best.

The first question is – Are you looking for a prolonged TRT set up that you can run all the time or looking to cycle up and down around training blocks.

The second question is – how E2 sensitive are you? How do you respond to these ratio of drugs? If you dont know then thats your main focus and would be you work with your coach. To find out what works best for you – in terms of feel/performance/blood work.

Primo in general does lower E2 more directly in most and mast does not so this is a factor – so those that aromatise more may choose primo and those that aromatise less may use mast.

also look to use TBJP vital support/love heart and heart care when using AAS to manage lipids/kidney/liver values etc etc

Always monitor things via blood work over time without a doubt.

the rest cant be answered as they depend on the answers to the above and would be based and data you for out

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[Hilly]

Wed – 3 x dog walks

6 meals in

trained legs with a Client and was a very good session – big focus on form and connection here

1 leg ham curls – x 11F, x 8F, x 19F
Extensions – x 13F, x 9F, x 15F plus partials
pendulum – x 8F, x 6F,
1 leg leg press – x 15F, x 11F
Adductor – x 16F, x 12F

Little lower in volume overall but alot of time under tensions – legs we’re blown up massively.

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[Hilly]

Mango – my fave tasting fruit
Dates – my second fave tasting fruit – fibre to help with BM
Pineapple – my third fave tasting fruit – digestive enzymes

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[Hilly]

Thank you both for the replies. What PCT protocol would you recommend post using it. I reckon I’ve got 5 weeks to the end of my cut

In all
Honesty from 5 weeks worth of var you won’t likely need anything

I do agree with the boys above. If wanting to push things harder a mix of winny n var will bring abt even more

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Tuesday – 2 x dog walks

Rest day

5 meals in

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Monday – 2 x dog walks

6 meals in

Trained delts / arms

Machine Laterals – x 8, x 10f, x 9F , x 14f
Narrow grip press – x 7f, x 5f, x 12f
1 arm cable lateral – x 17f

1 arm DB preacher – x 10f, x 8f, x 14f
1 arm tri PD – x 6f, x 9F, x 13f

Cable ez drag curl SS V grip push down – 3 x 10-15f

Hang leg raise – 3 x 15-20

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[Hilly]

My 2 options would be

Upper / lower – 2 on 1 off

Or 5 days a week training

P/p/l/ rest / upper / lower / rest

Which one is down to what you enjoy n feel more suited to

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