[Hilly]

if your doing PCT you dont take test, idea of PCT is to restore natural testosterone levels which you cant do if injecting testosterone.

At 60 years old I would be looking to keep all my health markers perfect and trying to find a sweet spot of test only for TRT.

150-200mg per week split into daily injections to control E2 better – can micro dose either subq or IM

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Or just use a small amount of a.i alongside the test . That’s what I would do as you can adjust reactions up and down very fast . So start at 0.25 mg adex per day , see how e2 Sides are for a couple weeks

I will do thank you, EQ has been mentioned a few times- are you a fan or does the hematocrit issues & Significant RBC thickening risk put you off advising it? Especially compared to your “Super TRT” Test and Primo Stack as you called it

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My issue with using EQ here is its usually super good at controlling E2 and will likely bring your E2 to low and then it takes time to get it back up.

Im a big fan just not with low dose test doses for the above reason.

I would drop down to 200mg test per week as J says and look to adjust my dosing schedule to see if I even need something to control E2.

i would be splitting the dose daily and doing it subq plus 25mg proviron per day[/quote]

Thank you for the help-

I’m not interested In mega dose cycles, so just like you and Jordan said the dose of test and the proviron if needed

You prefer the 200mg to the 300mg for test?

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Sorry -that should of said 300mg – hit there wrong button

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Im a litle confused

Your free t3 read looks the same both now and when sing 37.5mcg t3 – so why would you add t3 in?

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Sat – Weight down to 211lb – out for food with Sarah tonight so will eat up a little then

6 meals in

Trained legs with a client today, slightly adjusted session so suit Bethan and no cardio done with it being leg day and weight being low.

Glute bridge – x 8, x8, x 13F
Seated ham curl – x 8, x 8, x 7f
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 9F
1 leg leg press – x 8, x 8, x 10F
Hip press – x 8, x 8, x 9F
Adductor – x 12, x 10, x 9F

Tried to not push my sets as hard this week – keeping form super tight and accurate and stopping when I new I would have to grind the next rep out -See how cramp and sleep is.

had some slight cramp when getting out the car but nothing else so far

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I dont like the proposed one, it seems very confusing to me TBH but its all about what you want to do and trying things out so may be worth a trial. The logic is there its just giving me a bad head even reading it will the layout.

If it was me I would ne doing

Push
Pull
Legs
Rest
Upper – focus volume were you want it –
REst or can do Lower if want to train 5 days

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Thanks for the answer!

The blood values were taken in a laboratory, so I think they are definitely correct.

What should be checked here? Doctors who are familiar with this are very rare in my area.

Well considering I have personally had 2 lots of bloods this year with incorrect markers on I would say its worth double checking and going to doctors as this currently says your Wife has the testosterone levels way out of range in some markers

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I mean, it depends on what you’d consider is enough. If your back is growing, and you like the look of it, then it’s enough. . .

For most though, in order to develop a well rounded and complete back, most will attack it from numerous angles and planes.

Yeah my back is growing I wasn’t sure if I was leaving gains on the table [/quote]

if your hitting Full body 3 x a week for example then your getting 12 sets per week over 3 sessions at 2 sets per exercise which is more than sufficient – some may find that to much to be honest and strip it back to just 1 work set per exercise so 6 total over the week but if your growing well and strength is increasing then I would leave as is.

However I would not be doing the same 2 things every workout.

so workout 1 may be as this

Workout 2 may have a seated upper back row and a 1 arm cable Pull down

Etc etc [/quote]

Yeah I have hit a plateau so recently started doing 2 sets of pull-down still plateau on both exercises. I don’t have any rotational exercises but for example say session A is wide pull-down low row session B the cable pull-down seated then a normal cable row. Is this good enough or should I include a 3rd exercise on both sessions? And I also started doing fbeod to bump frequency and what can I do to get out of the plateau? [/quote]
so to confirm you increased frequency and then ran into a plateau ? I would reduce frequency and just train FB 3 days a week

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you dropped 20kg in 16 weeks so this certainly can and will impact testosterone levels in some. Its not uncommon for this to happen to alot of people that diet to very very lean states or crash diet.

Just how lean did you get?
How low dud you push food/fats ?

I would stay patient with were you are, slowly bring up food/weight and recheck hormones in 8 weeks. You need weight and boidyfat to come up a little and the body to rest more to make sure Test levels come back.

What were your testosterone levels pre diet?

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Or just use a small amount of a.i alongside the test . That’s what I would do as you can adjust reactions up and down very fast . So start at 0.25 mg adex per day , see how e2 Sides are for a couple weeks

I will do thank you, EQ has been mentioned a few times- are you a fan or does the hematocrit issues & Significant RBC thickening risk put you off advising it? Especially compared to your “Super TRT” Test and Primo Stack as you called it

[/quote]
My issue with using EQ here is its usually super good at controlling E2 and will likely bring your E2 to low and then it takes time to get it back up.

Im a big fan just not with low dose test doses for the above reason.

I would drop down to 200mg test per week as J says and look to adjust my dosing schedule to see if I even need something to control E2.

i would be splitting the dose daily and doing it subq plus 25mg proviron per day

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your defo lean enough to moive to a slow lean growth phase and it defo sounds like your in the mindset to.

Just focus on keeping rate of gain around 4-5lb a month
Train hard and have fun.

Go up 20-25lb and then asses

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Friday – Cardio done – 30 mintues – Steps will be 12k – Weight hovering between 212-215lb and the look is getting better so happy here –

Rest day today –

5 meals will go in –

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Thurs – Cardio done – 30 minutes – Steps 11k

6 meals in

Trained back again but much lower volume with me training it Monday

Ez bar cable pull over – x 8, x 8F
Chest supported row – x 6, x8F
HS iso lat pull down – x 8, x 10F
Overhand HS pull down – x 8, x 7f
1 arm lat focused cable row – x 15F

1 arm cable curl – 4 x 12-15 reps – tendon better again
Preacher machine – x 8, x 8, x 12F

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Wed – I trained late and was a random delts/tri/chest session with having Arilena till 8:30 pm and then having to fly to gym.,

No cardio done but 18k steps with little miss.

5 meals in

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hey

so the low ferritin would not concern me as other blood count numbers etc are fine and it is in range.

The testosterone level really would concern me if its accurate.

LDL I would also want to see come down – TBJP heart care here

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