[Hilly]

its impossible for us to time line this out for you bud as those things need monitoring and assessing over time.

However I would defo now cut based on current pics to a nice lean base and then run another growth phase that pushes back up before you consider competing again. TBH I think you need at least another 2 growth phases before I would consider competing but again its impossible to say until you see how these next 2 phases play out

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[Hilly]

Sunday – 25 minutes cardio done on wake and steps 10k

Trained back/biceps today in a local gym due to time constraints and getting Arilena – Decent session tho.

Cable pull over – x 8, x7f, x 14F
Chest supported row – x 8, 9F, x 8F-same weight
Overhand HS pull down – x 8, x 9F, x 14F –
Seated cable row upper back – x 8, x 10F, x6f – same weight
1 arm cable Pull down lat focused – x 15f, x 13F

1 arm machine preacher – x 10,x 10, x 9F, x 7F
Dual cable curl – x 10, x 10, x 10 – nothing to failure

Tendons still playing up a little.

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[Hilly]

if you have 500mg berberine caps/tablets I would start with meal 1 and meal 5 –

Check BG before hand on wake and then check after use to see improvement – asses from there and if your in a growth phase and building food up if you see BG start to come up then you can add another 500mg during the day

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[Hilly]

get regular deep tissue on sites bud – helps loads and is IMO vital.

I would also not recommend rotating between subq and IM

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[Hilly]

if you were using for a while you may find some of that stuff is still lingering in your system.

Are you using any AAS – anything changed this side last 2 weeks?

How much weight have you gained in the last 2 weeks since cut stopped?

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Is the pip just from hitting the sites first time or is it happening every time in every location

Shoulders i have hit a few time but never lats before. When i split up my injection to 0.3ml in my shoulders there was no pip which is wierd since both 0.6 Nd 0.3ml is very little. Can still perform in the gym with said muscles but its nagging me all day and ruining my sleep!

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I would switch to a test e or c – just and prop are known to give some people if not alot of people bad PIP

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[Hilly]

I would defo go see a physio / chiro

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if you made a food reduction only last time my next move would be to increase output – Cardio/steps

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start off very lean
Dont get fat
keep in some cardio
Keep steps at a decent spot
TBJP Insure with meals.

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[Hilly]

yeh as above – could be a little drop in Inflammation/glycogen stores from resting more.

Defo nothing to worry about or give any thought at all unless your sub 8% bodyfat and need to be careful of weight drops etc

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[Hilly]

if you are doing this yourself and have never done it before I would be very careful with messing around with stuff.

I would not deplete.

I would simply start tapering carbs up say 5 days out as you reduce output.

Start with an extra 100g carbs for day 1 – asses what your weight does and if you look better the next day. If you do add another 50g carbs.

if you keep looking better keep adding 50g maybe a touch more if the scale seems to actually drop off.

If you wake 1 day and look a touch worse then pull it back

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[Hilly]

Honestly in the grand scheme of things just taking it regularly is the key and the timing wont IMO have that drastic of an impact.

For growth/recovery etc a bolus dose pre bed.

for fat loss you could split on wake and pre training –

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Sat – 20 minutes cardio done -STeps 10k

No training done – was very busy with work ad clients competing this morning and then off to 2bro show and then a 4.5 hour drive home.

All meals in however.

Client won his class – we need to be a good chunk leaner in the back and glutes for our main focus in 4 weeks.

Another client competing 2moro.

Ill be training back and biceps 2moro –

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[Hilly]

This looks pretty good to me and a solid layout.

of course there are other things that can be added as there are alot of supplements out there but this is a good base spot.

If you are natural then look at the TBJP natural stack

if assisted then I would have TBJP vital support/love heart and heart care in for sure.

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[Hilly]

I agree with the above – for me around 4lb a month is a good spot I feel. I dont like to look at it to closely weekly as it never patterns out perfectly like that

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