[Hilly]

Great cycle suggestion mate!

Why not mix deca and tren though even at microdose?

it tends to cause some real bad sides for more less every one I know that has done so – both physical and mental.

In bodybuilding if no one seems to do something you can be sure there is a very good reason for it lol

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[Hilly]

I agree with the others – i would keep it in as not feeling it doesnt mean it isn’t working.

We do all have a limit of how much creatine the body can store and there are some people that naturally sit close to this limit so they do get less from it than others but for the cost of it IMO it is always worth keeping in

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[Hilly]

I’m currently eating around 4300 calories. I don’t do much cardio because my job keeps me active, somewhat physical.

214 grams of protein

587 grams of carbs

117 grams of fat.

so firstly you need to find your maintenance kcal – what I would do is

Training days – reduce kcal to 4000
Rest days – Reduce kcal to 3700.

I would also add in 15 minutes cardio on wake – HR around 110-120 BPM

track your steps – See what happens with weight and look – if your weight stalls then this is your maintenance numbers – if it keeps going up then your still in a surplus and need to decrease more.

If weight comes down a little bit then hold there and keep things as is until weight loss stalls for a little bit as your now in a deficit and have moved into dieting.

then asses as you go and repeat the process

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Update on this for those interested… the client failed to tell me he was using propranalol (beta blocker) which for whatever reason blocks the side effects from clen, unsure as to whether it blocks the action or not tho.

interesting indeed – did they seem to notice any enhanced fat loss from it then over time?

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[Hilly]

15 days into cruise dose – I just doubled my dose before I went away and then didnt take anything.

No GH

Only drugs being ran around

150mg test
100mg mast E

SLU – 300mcg daily on wake

Going to retest bloods in 4-5 weeks – I will drive down to E-val and get them to do it I think and recheck progesterone to see if it has come down from being super high

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[Hilly]

Thursday –

Cardio done – 25 minutes

Trained legs – reduced volume again but pretty good session.

Lay ham curls – x 8, x 11F
Extensions x 10, x 10, x 12F
Hack squat -x 8, x 8, x 8
Seated leg press – x 15, x 15, x 12F
Adductor – x 12, x 12, x 10F

Felt pretty shitty throughout this which is probably a result of being away last week and then not catching up on sleep since that brutal travel day Monday

In for back 2moro and then training a client Saturday – I may well then take 3 days off straight to catch up but we shall see –

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i could of sworn I updated this yesterday

Wednesday – I had Arilena until nursery time at 12:30.

Worked and then trained real late as used the day to catch up with work.

Trained delts/arms/chest as usual but was a random session as I eased back into things – nothing worth noting

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[Hilly]

D3

Creatine

Glutamine

Omega pharma

Magnesium

X 2 here

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[Hilly]

What is the E2 range on bloods ?

Fact is could be either issue.

Take 3-5 days off straight from gym. If issue is there it’s likely the E2 which is common for people when E2 is real
High

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I was a fan when running last year.

100-150mg a week only. Quanta or Raw both no Pip issues.

Defo an improvement in body composition changes more so than other drugs. Not on par with Tren but not that far off.

Strength seemed good.

No issues over 12-16 weeks.

Several clients have ran. All similar experiences

2-3 seem to report head ache issues or a loss of appetite after 8-10 weeks

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Yes , shot them both , glutamine benefits from multiple doses per day also

Fully agree

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[Hilly]

So I agree with Jordan here.

If looking to run this into a show I would do

10 weeks – test 250 and primo 100. Check bloods at week 6 to assess were this puts you and how better to adjust doses into the second stage

I would likely be either keeping test the same n upping primo or upping both but this would depend on your response and bloods etc

Yes Clenbuterol would be a good tool.

I would defo keep hcg etc for post show and your pct

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[Hilly]

I would not mix Deca and Tren even at
A low dose Tren.

If your goal is all
Out size and you didn’t find you held to much water etc on the test and deca then I agree to stick with that.

If you maybe want to try something that will give you a dryer look as you grow then the EQ n low dose Tren may well work very well.

So I would look to

150mg test
75mg EQ
10mg tren A

EOD

This ime would be a pretty effective cycle to but obviously you won’t know until you try it.

We’re as you know the test and deca worked very well.

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Monday was a very long travel day.

Lots of work done

Didn’t get home until 3am

Up at 7:30 to work and then straight to get my little girl

Back to normal eating today

Back into gym 2moro

Will train

We’d / Thurs / Fri / Sat

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[Hilly]

first mate a huge well done on your current progress, that is a lot of tissue added.

Personally for me now I would run a clean up phase and diet some body fat off. Get lean and then go again. Your making great progress but a little reset and clean up from here I feel will do you the best for overall progress.

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