[Hilly]

medically TRt is prescribed once your Test levels are under the natural range within the NHS and alot of other countries.

Now privately they will prescribe at times if just in the lower part of the range and reporting issues such as low libido, fatigue, motivation etc etc

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Complete cookie cutter , those are not staple supplements at all

Fully agree

metformin I do tend to put in with alot of clients but not all – the other 2 I rarely use with any one unless really needed.

I would be very wary of someone putting in the other 2 straight off just randonly

However I also think there could be alot more to this and he could have justifiable reasons for all based off your start information – did you provide bloods/blood pressure readings and some ongoing issues that you are working with him all. If thats the case then it would make sense

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Monday – Bp better today – 138/84 on wake

Still waiting on bloods back

no cardio done

Trained delts/arms/chest – all Sets listed are working sets

Seated Db laterals – x 8, x 8, x6F
Seated DB front raises – x 10, x 8, x 6F
Standing rear delt DB – x 12, x 12, x 9F

Preacher machine – x 10, x 10, x 8f, x 13F
1 arm preacher curl – x 8, x 8, x 7F with a drop set
Tricep extension machine – x 10, x 10, x 9f, x 16F
1 arm cable PD – x 8, x 8, x 7F with 2 drop sets

Incline chest press – x 8, x 8, x 6F with 1 drop set
Pec dec. -x 12, x 12, x 9F with 2 drop sets

6 meals in

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its common for every one that gets really lean but more so for naturals iME or if you run a deficit to hard for to long.

As kuba says – what is your macro intake currently and total kcal and what has it come down from?

I would be testing – Testosterone and E2 levels

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hey man, calories on training day 2000 and non training day 1700. Cardio is 10k steps daily, 30 minutes incline treadmill after a Saturday’s workout and an hour of cardio on Sunday.

agree – good place to start reversing from.

I would add 300kcal daily – keep steps as is and cardio as is. then asses over 7-14 days

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I would do a complete digestive reset to reduce information down as much as possible

Strip food choices right back – chicken / turkey / white fish – rice

Glutamine – 15g 3 x a day

Nothing off plan

Tbjp digest pro – 3 caps daily

Fresh sauerkraut- 20g 3 x a day

2-4 weeks or till issues subside

Hilly, thank you for your advice with the complete digestive reset diet. Would this just be chicken, turkey, or white fish meals with jasmine rice across the day for all meals with sauerkraut in 3 / 5 of my meals. I presume this diet means no sauces or seasoning. In regards to any suitable fat source, fruit and veg, would I include any of this in the diet alongside any pre workout drinks or intra ?

Thanks

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i would opt for wilted spinach for veg or lettuce

i would avoid all sauces and just stick to salt for meals – some use lemon juice and are fine.

I would initially avoid fruit.

running this for 2-4 weeks will let you know pretty quickly if things are going to improve and then you can slowly add stuff back in. Its a more extreme approach but I find for those with longer term / on and off issues it can be the fastest way to reset and get things back to good

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Sunday – BP spiked today – 155/92 – doesnt seem to be much sense to it – again bloods should show more.

Trained back in a local JD due to having house viewings scheduled and then picking Arilena up

Rope Pull over – x 10, x 10, x 9F
Overhand HS pull down – x 8, x 8, x 6F with a drop set
1 arm HS row – x 8, x 8, x 9F
Seated cable upper back row – x 8,x8, x 4F with 2 drop sets
1 arm HS PD – x 12, x 12, x 9F

abs –
5 mins HIT cardio

5 meals in today

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We know through science that training to total failure is not necessary to stimulate muscle growth – you simply have to train very hard and close to it.

As Jordan says they were doing more volume to create stimulus that way and they were training hard as hell. All this guys you mention and all that come under this discussion trained super hard with alot of volume and got very strong while doing so.

For me it comes down to what you enjoy doing and what you find works for you within the mechanics of hypertrophy. When I have watched videos of these guys doing there top sets they simply seem to stop once they look as if there form is going to go or they are going to fail – they certainly dont look like there far away from failure and taking it easy thats for sure

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Very much agree with Allison here – bloods would be a very good move. However how long has it been since she stopped as it can take months and months for a females hormones to settle and the body normalise once stopping any form of contraceptive.

I am also in full agreement on the primrose oil, I have all me female clients use this alongside higher dose ZMA and a good dose TBJP omega pro

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Sat – woke this morning and BP down to 140/77 – way better than it has been.

I pulled the meditrope GH wed and I took 1mg adex thurs night post bloods –

Pinned 100mg test and 125mg Eq yesterday as this will be the change to cycle I imagine from using primo to try and control E2 to Eq as I always do – However to be confirmed once bloods land but this pretty much tells me its been a E2 issue.

Cardio done on wake

1 hour Badminton played.

No training today – only training 3 times due to resting monday with the deep tissue work last Sunday – My neck is also drastically better the last couple of days so super happy there to

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agree with all of those above in terms of supplements and cardio –

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I go

Iftar – 1 litre water and electrolytes + cor, whey, fruit

Train

Post workout – rice, chicken, – cereal if calories allow

Meal 3 I’d have a shake – cor/oats, whey, fruit nut butter

Suhoor – eggs and toast or salmon and rice.

2-3 solid meals and 1-2 shakes

Condense calories into a manageable amount of feeds. And then crack in as normal.

I more or less this for most clients.

Some can get 4 meals and a shake
others feel better on 3 bigger meals and a shake.

Its about finding what works best for you – As H says hydration is key

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id be more inclined to say yur getting this flu every one has.

however – how long has it been since you cycled and did you do the 250mg in one jab – As it could be this

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Friday – 20 minutes cardio done.

6 meals in

Had to train legs late tonight which just put my hole focus of it seems but was really busy all day and had to take cat to vets and some other stuff so was only time I could train.

Session and strength was decent – just didnt enjoy the session as much – Felt a little all over.

Lay ham curls -x 8, x 8, x 8F
extensions – x 8, x 8, x7f, x 14F – decided I dont like the cyber extension I used today.
Pendulum – x 8, x 8, x 8 , x 6 – just shy failure
1 leg leg press – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 7 – just shy failure
1 leg ham curl – x 8, x 8, x 10F
Adductor x 12, x 12, x 10F

still a great session – Strength was good, pumps great and lets feel ruined now

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I see no difference in testosterone readings via blood work between IM and SubQ

I actually saw an increase in free testosterone when doing subQ in comparison to IM

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