[Hilly]

I agree with the above – I dont think your getting much out of it in 5 days but I would go 50mg daily if I was trying to

many thanks @all replying,

i just hopped on my first cycle (300mg Test E, 150mg every 3 days) after my first comp. in october.

i really sucked lots of water and got rid of my leanness, I’m 12 weeks into off season since competing. Already lost most of my abs and I’m very watery.

I am not a fan of orals either, but as far as I know our liver can handle the damages if we use orals just for a certain time.

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if you have lost most of your abs and are very watery then minstrel aint doing shit as what you think is very watery is likely fat TBH in my experience

Your not on enough drugs for 98% of people to be very watery

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[Hilly]

Monday – No cardio done

Trained FB as planned – once again a make shift session and nothing to failure. Was just seeing how the new kit feels and what I like and dont like.

Thurs will be legs, Friday will be Delts/arms/chest and sat back and then rest Sunday

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[Hilly]

January plans and onwards.

The goal is still to grow – body comp was good up until last week, looks a little off now but thats due to several days off plan and under eating and then a heavy day drinking thursday.

Ill not be 100% due to Wedding Monday/Tuesday either so will be 8 days were I have been a little all over.

So initially I will keep food as is but adjust training back to 4 days as has been the plan all along and back to higher volume. I must say I have really enjoyed the FB split 3 x a week and will come back to it.

Training will be

2 x chest/delt/arm sessions – Monday/Thursday

1 x leg session – Wed

1 x back session – Sat

Wed and sat sessions will switch depending on what I am doing with clients and travel etc.

Volume will be much higher in all sessions – Looking at around 12-14 failure sets for back and legs and around 18-20 sets for delts/arms and 15 sets for chest. Split between the 2 sessions.

Simply because I still want to prioritise these areas and due to me being unable to do any heavy pressing how I push these sessions doesnt accumulate the fatigue etc it may do in others.

Food will be as is currently as I asses how my body comp changes with the adjusted training – I should see a change here simply from the increases number of sessions per week and increases output.

Drugs – Still cruising

250mg test, 100mg primo – getting bloods done in 2 weeks.

GH – 6iu training days – 3iu rest days

Lantus – 20iu meal 1 training days.

Cardio – 15-20 minutes on every morning I can.

PWO cardio will be brought back in. -10 mins on stairs post all upper sessions

Ill probably cruise till end of January – I want to make sure my weight is holding around 230lb and in decent composition before I move to cycle – which TBF is was pre xmas so this should not be an issue – I may even see a little more than this.

i will then move to cycle which should see me hit 240lb plus in the best condition I have if all plays out as it should.

I have as usual a super busy year with work – clients will be competing almost weekly from April onwards all over the world and I will be travelling to a fair amount of shows – this will take priority over my own stuff when these trips happen as does time with Arilena which is all fine by me and as I want it but I will make good progress make no mistake

Could you give a breakdown of your training and rest day meals?[/quote]
T day

Meal 1 – 250ml egg whites, 1 serving TBJP superfood – 4 slices sourdough and grass fed butter
meals 2/3/4 – 175g cooked chicken, 300g cooked basmati rice, 10g extra virgin macadamia oil
Meal 5 – 250g raw weight steak/lamb with 300g basmati rice

Intra – 30g EAA and 50g carb powder
PWo – 50g isolate and 50g carb powder

R days –

Meal 1 – 250ml egg whites, 1 serving TBJP superfood – 4 slices sourdough and grass fed butter
meals 2/3 – 175g cooked chicken, 300g cooked basmati rice, 10g extra virgin macadamia oil
Meal 4. 80g TBJP vegan whey – kept as just a shake as I usually have Arilena for all of these days so allows me to be flexible with her during the day
Meal 5 – 250g raw weight steak/lamb with 300g basmati rice – 2-3 x a week a clean free meal this will be

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[Hilly]

Defo agree with the above – simply stick to 5g daily -this is more than enough

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[Hilly]

did you use a soluble fibre supplement like I recommend in your previous thread?

Yes peter i used psyllium 5g morning for 3 days but i felt awful,bloated and digestion off.veggies at this time make me bloat,so i dont use them and i feel ok.i never switched chicken to turkey,i ll give it a try.i used so much pandium and for like 1 year and i took it of,and i instant have acid reflux.i accept the ibs problem,some days i bloat a lot when i stress but its ok i accept it.sometimes with the bloat i have,i cant even drink water because i will blow up.all my life when i had a problem,i thought one pill will solve the problem.now im sure that the pill shadows the problem and u must dig to find the reason.im here to really understand why i have acid reflux.thank u all for the support.i chew slow,i do everything like u all said,but it takes time a guess.

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I would look to something that is just soluble fibre – hence i did not recommend Husk as I often see this cause issues.

Something like Benefiber

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[Hilly]

hey

so the only issues I can see are

Haemoglobin and hematocrit are a touch high but as long as your Blood pressure is fine this would not concern me as they are barely over range.

Test and free test are low but if you have not injected any testosterone in 4 weeks then this is to be expected

Thank you Hilly! So starting off season now with 350mg test should be alright? Anything i could do to lower hematocrit and haemoglobin? [/quote]
Taking TBJP vital support would be my first advice – if your BP is fine then i honestly see no reason to worry or look to directly reduce it.

Just retest bloods in 6-8 weeks into the cycle and see if the numbers have changed at all.

A more acute method would. Be letting blood through a service that provides this or NHS etc but I really see no need here

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[Hilly]

1 week minimum – for my Clients I always say 2-3 weeks

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with all of the above.

I only count fluid I drink – nothing in foods etc

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[Hilly]

Honestly buddy – it is literally impossible for us to tell you this –

As J says – if you dont have any idea at all just make sure you are totally fat free and leave all else as is. you will look awesome

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[Hilly]

I agree with the above – I dont think your getting much out of it in 5 days but I would go 50mg daily if I was trying to

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[Hilly]

January plans and onwards.

The goal is still to grow – body comp was good up until last week, looks a little off now but thats due to several days off plan and under eating and then a heavy day drinking thursday.

Ill not be 100% due to Wedding Monday/Tuesday either so will be 8 days were I have been a little all over.

So initially I will keep food as is but adjust training back to 4 days as has been the plan all along and back to higher volume. I must say I have really enjoyed the FB split 3 x a week and will come back to it.

Training will be

2 x chest/delt/arm sessions – Monday/Thursday
1 x leg session – Wed
1 x back session – Sat
Wed and sat sessions will switch depending on what I am doing with clients and travel etc.

Volume will be much higher in all sessions – Looking at around 12-14 failure sets for back and legs and around 18-20 sets for delts/arms and 15 sets for chest. Split between the 2 sessions.

Simply because I still want to prioritise these areas and due to me being unable to do any heavy pressing how I push these sessions doesnt accumulate the fatigue etc it may do in others.

Food will be as is currently as I asses how my body comp changes with the adjusted training – I should see a change here simply from the increases number of sessions per week and increases output.

Drugs – Still cruising
250mg test, 100mg primo – getting bloods done in 2 weeks.
GH – 6iu training days – 3iu rest days
Lantus – 20iu meal 1 training days.

Cardio – 15-20 minutes on every morning I can.
PWO cardio will be brought back in. -10 mins on stairs post all upper sessions

Ill probably cruise till end of January – I want to make sure my weight is holding around 230lb and in decent composition before I move to cycle – which TBF is was pre xmas so this should not be an issue – I may even see a little more than this.

i will then move to cycle which should see me hit 240lb plus in the best condition I have if all plays out as it should.

I have as usual a super busy year with work – clients will be competing almost weekly from April onwards all over the world and I will be travelling to a fair amount of shows – this will take priority over my own stuff when these trips happen as does time with Arilena which is all fine by me and as I want it but I will make good progress make no mistake

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[Hilly]

Sunday – Cardio done 20 minutes on wake

I decided to not train yesterday as felt a little ill and full of cold

this morning I went to a new JD gym that has just replaced the one I use on my doorstep when very time restricted to see how it will suit my monday session and it should do very nicely indeed. So super happy here as this will save me more time on Mondays allowing more time with Arilena.

It was a very make shift session and nothing to failure – Full body.
I am going to do a similar thing 2moro – ive had 7 days off the gym so am just easing my body back into things and getting things working and body adjusted to train after being ill and time away and off plan.

I am then at a Wedding and will have Arilena Tuesday/Wed.

From thurs I will be then switching my training back to how I was pre full body and a much higher volume approach. See next post

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[Hilly]

I would be getting pre bloods and bloods at week 6.

Pre bloods let you know are you are naturally and the bloods at week 6 were this dose of testosterone is putting you. This is jus the top end of a TRT dose and I have seen some people do this and find they are only putting themselves were they ate naturally and completely wasting there time.

personally I would not bother running a anything under the 250-300mg of testosterone unless blood work showed natural levels are very low

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[Hilly]

hey

so the only issues I can see are

Haemoglobin and hematocrit are a touch high but as long as your Blood pressure is fine this would not concern me as they are barely over range.

Test and free test are low but if you have not injected any testosterone in 4 weeks then this is to be expected

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[Hilly]

did you use a soluble fibre supplement like I recommend in your previous thread?

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