[Hilly]

Hey hilly, can you please rate my push workout, im having of them a week

Incline chest press

3 sets till failure

Barbell smith bench

3 sets till failure

Tricep push down

3 sets till failure

Cable lateral raise

3 sets till failure

Overhead press

3 sets till failure

Ab crunch machine

2 sets till failure

All my rep ranges do not go above 10 reps except for the ab crunch machine, i do 35 reps a set

I don’t like the layout.

For me I may go

Smith press chest
Overhead press
Machine press chest
Side laterals
Dips
Tricep push down

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[Hilly]

Makes total sense! Could I reach out to you on insta?

course bud

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[Hilly]

I would run a couple of back to back high days and then look to dig if you can for a few more weeks. For me I look to do all I can to get clients leaner while making sure strength isnt being lost and food focus isnt high.

Then grow from the leanest place possible

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[Hilly]

to me this does not make alot of sense if im honest.

I get the looking to rinse the most out of doses etc so considering a reduced dose.

However if you used 300mg test to cut on then using less than this moving to a growth phase and barely over TRT seems backwards.

If your wanting to use the least possible while still actually seeing the benefits of taking drugs then I would be atleast moving to 300mg of test and likely with 100mg mast or primo.

Im all for getting the most out of the least however im not into taking drugs and risking the negative effects without seeing a positive that is worth the balance. So I would want to see the dose at 400mg total IMO based on what you have done so far.

Of course you can go in at 250mg and titrate up from there, you can do anything you wish but the above is my opinion based on ifnroamtion.

GH – 2iu per day will possibly help keep you a tad leaner and have some health benefits/recovery benefits over the long term. So there is a benefit and if funds allow then makes sense to run

All good mate so in your opinion go 300 test and another 100 compound. Then make changes from there when needed. Also as my peak dosage last time was 1000mg combined would you need to push higher than this the next time? Only done this a few times so since joining here trying to get as much opinions from more experienced people and then make decisions from there[/quote]
No Defo not. As J says you will be able to get alot out of 400mg.

You then will be able to get alot more out of 600mg

then a good bit more from 800mg if needed to get were you want.

This could be done over a very very long period of cycling and then cruising/trt

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[Hilly]

I think this will work well enough if your body responds well to it – just like any other drugs mixes

Its all about finding what works best for yiu.

why do you want to keep E2 so low tho and test so low? We know E2 is important for muscle growth and some people feel really good with it higher and grow much better.

So as with anything in this game – dont listen to other people solely on what to do. Find what works best for you that suits your goals and budget

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[Hilly]

You have been posting here for a while now bud so im pretty sure you will already know the answer here.

None of us cal tell you if this will out your E2 in a good spot. You simply have to run it for 6 weeks and then check.

This is the exact ratio I would use with a client tho if I had 0 history or blood work from them. I would then do bloods at 6 weeks

check these hormones and were E2 and prolactin is

Asses how they feel, how progress is and how sex drive etc is.

We would then amend based on all of this info and recheck in 6 weeks again

Thanks hilly my man for the response! Yeah bro I am gonna run this exact cycle and see how I respond and feel etc. but these ratios seem pretty sensible to start with, low e2 is never an option for me tho as I feel absolutely awful that’s why I’m afraid to use primo closer to testosterone in case it crashes my e2 bro [/quote]
Defo run with this set up and see how you respond then – you’ll no pretty soon if E2 crashed but for most it would not on this set up

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[Hilly]

Monday -No cardio done. Terrible sleep and felt crap on wake – Arilena was up 4 times during the night FFS.

This put we may behind from the get go.

work done.
Managed to train still and did FB but reduced volume a little down from normal – Was still a very good workout and strength was good.

Cable Y raises – x 14F, x 12F, x 18F
Dual cable curls – x 13F, x 11F, x 8F with a drop set
Crucifix PD – x x 15f, x 13F, x 8F with a drop set
Overhand PD machine x 12F, x 8f
1 arm lat focused PD – x 7F, x 12F
Chest press – x 9F, x 12F with 2 drop sets
smith squats – x 10f, x 6F
Ham curls – x 9f with a drop set

decent workout – some good strength increases

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[Hilly]

absolutely not IMO – there is just no way for me any one is going to progress on everything every session and I dont think any one should be expecting to do so either.

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My pleasure bud – so its very strange your sitting here and shows you may well have an underlying issue or insulin resistance issue.

if you were a client of mine I would be recommending getting bloods done and checking all markers related to insulin and insulin resistance.

I would then be looking at running a phase were you focus on doing all you can to improve/correct this – which depending on how you respond may take a few weeks or months

Out of interest have you tried buying a new machine and testing. I have had clients in similar situations were it made no sense the high readings and turned out the machine was giving out false readings.

Ive also had clients were this was a sign they were diabetic. So I would recommend speaking to your doctor and getting bloods done –

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Thanks for your response Ryan, I’ve brought test down to 150mg. Just a follow on question. Once all fertility markers are within reference range, do I need to continue the hmg, or can I keep it up with just HCG from that point?

Nope you need to take the drugs constantly until you conceive – its the drugs that are making your body produce the sperm

This is the downside of doing this while on testosterone

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Unless some one is in prep i dont like to recommend people do daily – it brings about to much focus on the scale and creates possible bad habbits.

I prefer people to check weight twice a week – however in certain cased if people seem to have random spikes or alot of fluctuations then I will ask to check daily and provide the average

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[Hilly]

Basics would be K2&D3, Creatine, Oh Mega Pharma Pro, The One/Veggie Might and Cure Coming.

If funds allow, I’d add Love Heart too.

Anything on top of that will depend on your own needs.. eg. Joint health, stress reduction, organ protection, sleep aid etc.

fully agree

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totally agree with J – i tend to look at this over a month with clients. so we are looking for 4-6lb a month.

if you dont see weight trend up over 2 weeks then you can be confident weight has stalled and you need to up food. Simple as that

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[Hilly]

to me this does not make alot of sense if im honest.

I get the looking to rinse the most out of doses etc so considering a reduced dose.

However if you used 300mg test to cut on then using less than this moving to a growth phase and barely over TRT seems backwards.

If your wanting to use the least possible while still actually seeing the benefits of taking drugs then I would be atleast moving to 300mg of test and likely with 100mg mast or primo.

Im all for getting the most out of the least however im not into taking drugs and risking the negative effects without seeing a positive that is worth the balance. So I would want to see the dose at 400mg total IMO based on what you have done so far.

Of course you can go in at 250mg and titrate up from there, you can do anything you wish but the above is my opinion based on ifnroamtion.

GH – 2iu per day will possibly help keep you a tad leaner and have some health benefits/recovery benefits over the long term. So there is a benefit and if funds allow then makes sense to run

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[Hilly]

if your retaining lots of water then blood pressure will be high and that is the link/cause to stressing the heart and kidneys

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