[Hilly]

I only use TBJP vegan whey and no other powders and it works super well for me and all my clients that do the same

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[Hilly]

Split into daily shots and reduce the test to 250 and replace 50 mg with mast or primo

If primo doesn’t reduce it then lower test and add it it will then see lower estrogen as your androgen load ( total dose of your gear ) will stay same but less aromatisation as test is a touch lower – daily pinning will help a ton too

x 2 here for sure [/quote]

X 2? [/quote]
it means I fully agree with Kuba advice

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[Hilly]

IMO a mini cut is always a good idea if digestion/appetite is taking a hit or you feel BF is to high and you wont IMO loose muscle if done right.

You tend to stop a mass phase when you feel BF is to high and progress has stalled no matter what you do or digestion is taking a hit and a mini cut just doesnt seem to help.

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[Hilly]

Removing egg whites is a good move as they do cause people digestive issues.

As above – any lean meat or fish is a fine substitute

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[Hilly]

J as as always nailed this

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[Hilly]

Thursday – Not much to report here.

4 meals in yesterday.

Will get 4 meal in today.

no training as still in Benidorm. – all the lads land today for stag,

All todays work done.

going out for a long walk before they all land this afternoon

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[Hilly]

Well there are no actual rules here.

If your blood work continues to look good for can run this for very extended periods of time.

A lot of people these days have a cruise / Trt set up that is 300mg total with no issues.

In terms of what your actual Trt dose would be.

A dose that puts you at the very top end of Normal or my preference just above. This will differ for all.

I can run 220mg test and 40mg primo a week and sit with a test read of around 45 and E2 top of normal which for myself is perfect

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[Hilly]

Wednesday. Cardio done then off to Leeds airport

Stag do for my best mate in Benidorm.

So doubt I’ll train lol

I’ll still be working as per however so it won’t be to wild for me which I prefer these days tbh

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[Hilly]

Hey Billy.

so this is going to be a hard area to cover unless you find some one with direct experience.

Personally I dont understand enough of the process you have gone through to know if moving to a cycle and seeing levels change will effects things in a different way than we would expect.

Possible some one else may be able to help but I would personally look to see if you can find others that have done a similar process and gather information from there experience directly

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[Hilly]

Split into daily shots and reduce the test to 250 and replace 50 mg with mast or primo

If primo doesn’t reduce it then lower test and add it it will then see lower estrogen as your androgen load ( total dose of your gear ) will stay same but less aromatisation as test is a touch lower – daily pinning will help a ton too

x 2 here for sure

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[Hilly]

i dont like the carb free rest day at all tbh – your then running into a very demanding workout and the is going to hit hard.

However these sessions are also supposed to be very taxing so you should be feeling pretty trashed after wards – the key is then to eat enough to recover from them.

I dont see a specific PWO feed so I would potentially add carbs and protein here to.

I would then reduce fats a tad and add in some carbs on rest days unless there is some sort of specific reason your going carb free

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[Hilly]

Yeh, I add boiling water first -400ml and mix in 75-100g Cor and stir with a fork.

Then add cold water bit by bit to get the right consistency I like – dead easy

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[Hilly]

Fully agree with the above, another 6 weeks should do it.

Excellent physique you are creating buddy

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[Hilly]

Tuesday – flight was a little delayed and then had to drive from Manchester so been a very long day as didnt get home till 6:30am

Slept till lunch time and then worked, ran errands and managed an 90 minutes in the gym doing a full body workout.

Was 2 exercises per muscle group – 2 work sets each. -Second to failure.

Nothing logged of course and was some random kit in a very local gym due to timing but overall a good sessions.

i intend to map these out more accurately next week and then start properly from there.

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[Hilly]

Mostly it has been consistent TRT dosing (was reduced down to 250mg every 3 weeks for a few months) but my Test dropped to 26 at that point.

What levels would you expect my E2 and Prolactin to be ?

I’m under the NHS, not a private clinic so I’m dependant on their call, but any advice I can use to help push them in a good direction.

I’m being referred to Imperial College London to continue my care, but currently no mention of HCG.

I will see what my bloods say within the next 2 weeks then look at doing daily dosages of TRT.

the dosing every 3 weeks is terrible for me – IME I find you want at a bare minimum weekly dosing but in an ideal world – MWF or daily will work even better.

As long as E2 and prolactin are in range then you are G2G in reality but I would always favour E2 being closer to the top end of range and not the bottom for most

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