[Hilly]

Exactly as J says for me.

Just keep bumping those carbs up slowly and surely.

I always go 2 weeks before making another change

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I would pull the tren out totally now.

Pull the Clen back to 40mcg. Not drop out tho.

I would leave test as is till
A week out personally then pull.

Add winny 30mg meal 1

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Superb with the training buddy , that’s going to make a HUGE diff , like huge huge

Based on your profile pic , if you can keep getting leaner than would be amazing , I would love to see you 10-12 pounds leaner than that , then very very slowly go back up 30 pounds and do that on just 300mg total anabolics , I promise you, if you take 6 months to add the 30 pounds and you stay on fB the whole time , you will transform, like it will be insane !!

Btw first off thank you so much for the advice. This site and its members are so helpful. So glad I joined.

That pic was actually taken last week so very recent.

Just finished cycle so plan is to cruise on 120mg test cyp (microdosed with 6 injections a week). Could use that time to pull off 12 pounds easy enough. Currently 230lbs. Im guessing I’m holding alot of water from the test/boldenone cycle.

Btw Full Body is actually a really fun split. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.

Problem I’ve had in past with anabolics is my weight just seems to skyrocket 3/4lbs a week. And thats with calories not even sitting that high. 3000kcal max on the test/primo cycle. Calories were closer to 4300 on the test/boldenone cycle.

Here if the difference is going to be insane i’m all in. Its not about fun its about progress 👍

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I imagine that weight spike is because you have gone in with big doses of Test straight off the bat and the other drugs that can control E2 have not had chance to work and control it yet so your seeing a big spike in E2 and thus bigger jump on the scale with water etc.

As usual I fully Agree with J – you defo can go back and make sure you optimise all other areas more effectively as well as like you say try different and potentially more effective training approaches.[/quote]

Thank you Peter.

As ive ran the test/boldenone/oxandralone/gh cycle for 8 weeks.

Would you say just pull the plug and go to trt and reset before going to 300mg again after bloods. Or would it be better to stay on, drop the other compounds and run 300mg test for another 8-10 weeks?

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I would drop the EQ out now and tear down to 450mg for 6-8 weeks.

Then move to trt.

I wouldn’t come all the way down to 300 or lower with you being on a higher dose EQ.

That’s going to linger and may end up leaving you with very low E2 if not careful

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Sunday – weight 217 n held

Rest day today

Cardio done.

All is good.

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My supplements in terms of health and recovery stay the same day to day.

There is nothing it are different day to day

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Hi,

My mistake … ES was 310 now 147

So this has come down to the top end of normal range which i am presuming you wanted.

This will be a combo of the Estro control and primo for sure – primo works very well in alot of people at doing this

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Superb with the training buddy , that’s going to make a HUGE diff , like huge huge

Based on your profile pic , if you can keep getting leaner than would be amazing , I would love to see you 10-12 pounds leaner than that , then very very slowly go back up 30 pounds and do that on just 300mg total anabolics , I promise you, if you take 6 months to add the 30 pounds and you stay on fB the whole time , you will transform, like it will be insane !!

Btw first off thank you so much for the advice. This site and its members are so helpful. So glad I joined.

That pic was actually taken last week so very recent.

Just finished cycle so plan is to cruise on 120mg test cyp (microdosed with 6 injections a week). Could use that time to pull off 12 pounds easy enough. Currently 230lbs. Im guessing I’m holding alot of water from the test/boldenone cycle.

Btw Full Body is actually a really fun split. I was surprised how much I enjoyed it.

Problem I’ve had in past with anabolics is my weight just seems to skyrocket 3/4lbs a week. And thats with calories not even sitting that high. 3000kcal max on the test/primo cycle. Calories were closer to 4300 on the test/boldenone cycle.

Here if the difference is going to be insane i’m all in. Its not about fun its about progress 👍

[/quote]
I imagine that weight spike is because you have gone in with big doses of Test straight off the bat and the other drugs that can control E2 have not had chance to work and control it yet so your seeing a big spike in E2 and thus bigger jump on the scale with water etc.

As usual I fully Agree with J – you defo can go back and make sure you optimise all other areas more effectively as well as like you say try different and potentially more effective training approaches.

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Sat – weight has come back up from 2 medium days – 217lb – I must of under ate to much on rest day when Arilena was poorly with our realising.

Cardio done

Super busy work day with clients competing in Italy and Manchester this weekend then sat and sun weekend after.

Trained in David Lloyds a little later on due to time constraints so kit certainly isn’t UF but was a pretty good session.

Cable pull over – x 8, x 8, x 8, x 11F with a drop – always in fro activation this and to help warm shoulders up as I warm up.
Overhand pull down – x 8, x 8, x 8F, x 13F
smith machine bent over row -x 8, x 6F with 2 drop sets
1 arm cable lat focused pull down – x 8, x 12F, x 7F – same weight
1 arm cable row using the same bench I used for the above – x 8, x 11F, x 5F – Same weight
Seated cable upper back row – x 8, x 9F, x 16F

10 minutes ons pairs – surprisingly good session, connection was good as were pumps

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Hello bud – So the estro control defo seems to have had a positive effect on prolactin however from your numbers it looks like E2 has remained the same.

Can you confirm this as the way you have written this makes it seem as tho E2 has improved but the number hasn’t changed

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As per J says – sit it in boiling water for 10-15 minutes and give I a good shake every 2-3 minutes.

Repeat this process twice and you should fine it reconstitutes totally fine – there shouldnt be any damage at all to the drug as it goes through a heating process to be made.

If your worried at all then just bin it and get more but I have done this several times in the passed with no issues at all and would happily do again

Im not one for wasting drugs if I can get it back to its normal form easily 🙂

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Hi and i hope you are well.

So low T3 and t4 will for sure make it more difficult to loose weight in general and also if were were trying to get very lean or bodybuilding stage lean then even more difficult as you will find these numbers drop off even more as you get leaner.

it may also well mean you get a little softer as you grow which you have seen in the passed.

This doesnt make it impossible to improve your physique at all it just means that certain phases may be a little more difficult.

have you tried any natural supplements to look at boosting your thyroid levels.

Selenium ?
Kelp ?

Have you checked them during a phase of growing were your food is higher and a phase of cutting? Or just in one certain phase?

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Friday – no weight taken – Rest day

Cardio done on wake
played badminton tonight.

worked all day –

Very good day overall

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The structure is different which alters the absorption rates. Maltodextrin is absorbed rapidly, causing a sudden rise in blood sugar. Cyclic dextrin has a more sustained and steady release rate and is digested and absorbed in the small intestine which gives it a faster gastric emptying time. This makes for less digestive disruption.
I would always opt for Cyclic Dextrin over Maltodextrin.

Even as a student thats not got much money? 4x more expensive with cyclic[/quote]
As a student use – malto or jelly sweets pre. Post depending on goal.

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Thursday- weight 213.5 for some reason. Not sure how that happened

As test is up n gh is up lol but I did pull food back quite hard n looked dam lean this morning

Legs today n have upped food in all meals.
May repeat 2moro on rest day

Legs was great n strength was very good

Lay ham curl – x 8, x 9F with a drop set. Weight increase here
Extensions – x 8, x 8, x 13f with a drop. Same reps here
Smith squat – x 8, x 10f. Reps same as 2 weeks ago
Hip press – x 8, x12f. Same but better reps
1 leg ham curl – x8, x 15f. Up on reps n target hit. Will up next time
Adductor – x 8, x 15f

Job done. Very happy indeed today

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If you’re on a cycle, you really should make sure you’re able to afford the health supps alongside to support you.

Vital Support and Love heart would be a must for me.

On top of that, Oh Mega Pharma Pro, Cure Coming and Heart Care would also be advisable.

Sorry, i worded my question poorly, since i live outside of uk, just vital support and love heart costs around 150£ to get so thats why im asking. Will defo get love heart and vital support and maybe even oh mega pharma pro[/quote]
I would most defo go with vital support and love heart if I only had to pick 2

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