[Hilly]

Wed – weight 216lb still
Cardio done
sleep not to bad

all meals in –

Trained legs and was a superb session – can defo feel the low E2 in my knees

Seated ham curls – x 13f, x 15F – up in reps both sets
Extensions – x8, x 8, x 17F – different machine
Leg press -x 8, x 8, x 11F – up in reps
1 leg hip press – x8, x11F – same as last time
1 leg ham curl – x 8, x 14F – up in reps
Glute drive – x 8, x 15F – up in reps

Seated calf rest phase – x 8, x 16F/f/f – up in reps

Ruined after this in a good way – very happy outside the little knee niggles – will adjust cycle from this week and detail changes in here once worked out

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[Hilly]

Answered in your other thread

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[Hilly]

personally for me with doses like this I would always suggest a Mon/Wed/Fri inject schedule but in reality Monday/thurs is probably fine for most.

If you have a tendency to get sides then daily dosing does help reduce this for sure but for alot of people the above will work just Fine.

Remember the half lives of these drugs are there to create stable blood levels over time. Its only when we get to bigger doses this really becomes an issue

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So i would wait 3-4 weeks minimum before you start any PCT drugs.

then i would run 1500iu HCG every MWF for 3 weeks – using 20mg nolvadex during this time daily
once this stops i would keep the Nolva in and run 50mg clomid for 30 days.

I would then wait 2 weeks and get blood work done making sure you check LH/FSH/test/free test/prolactin

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[Hilly]

Those are some Decent numbers for the cycle there – was 81kg his start weight or is that were he is now?

Its so hard for us to give advice like this when we dont know alot about the person.

If we look at it purely from drugs and wanting to build the most amount of muscle then nandrolone is pretty up there as long as we can handle sides etc.

so I would start the cycle with

5-600mg test
300mg NPP
300mg EQ – if dont get on with Eq then possibly primo or a mix of primo and mast at 500mg.

I would run this for 8 weeks and then asses and taper up based on feel, results and blood work. I personally would not jump right into the bigger doses after 5 months cruising as you will get growth from this without a doubt.

I do prefer NPP – personally myself and others feel they get less sides than running normal deca but others do not.

I wouldn’t bother with the orals initially and would potentially save these for sticking points, escalations later on based on progress and ability to eat and would favour something like Oxy at 25-50mg pre gym if it doesnt effect hunger or anavar at 25-50mg pre gym.

Again tho this all depends on how well he handles these drugs, doses and ability to eat and train.

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Tuesday. -Weight – 215lb – so this has dropped a bit and my tendons all feel sore – elbows/shoulder and knees – the type of sore I feel when I have lower E2

I got some bloods done last week and E2 was at 125 – which is mid range but I wonder if the EQ is now working fully and bringing this further down – Defo feels like it

so from this week I will be bumping my test up from 420mg or so to 600-650mg

I will work it all out 2moro when I do a self check in – As my food also needs to go up again. –

No cardio Done this Am – I was up late working and Arilena was up at midnight and 3am – then 5:45Am so ive been pretty tired all day.

We played in the garden this morning and then did some crafts stuff in the house.
she napped and I worked 11-12:15
We then hit David Lloyds outdoor pool and soft play till just before 6pm before home – chill and bed.

Now I work while she sleeps

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[Hilly]

Jordan has done several videos on this – I would check his YouTube and the educate section on here.

He has also just done some excellent posts on IG about this – I would and screen shot them ASAP

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[Hilly]

Agree with Kuba – this sounds far from ideal to me – I know of some that use this and it does work but you need experience with doing so and the rebounds are brutal wether you get it right or not which is rare when people do.

Its almost impossible to give any one a peak week plan for them that will work our the best way as it takes time to learn that personas body and monitor it.

I as with all the others here have clients checking in 1-2-3 times a day during peak weeks to make sure all goes to plan for example

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Monday – Weight 216lb

No cardio done as Arilena up early as per and I fell asleep with her around 8:30 PM and woke 3am lol so just climbed into my bed.

Worked and trained 8-1 then home to have some time in the Garden, Take Arilena to gymnastics and then food shop.

Trained – Delts/arms/chest

1 arm side laterals – x 8, x 8, x 10F, x 13F with a drop set

EZ bar curl to head SS with rope PD – 4 x 12-15 reps – last set to failure

EZ cable curls – x 8, x 11F, x 9F. – last 2 same weight
OH EZ bar extensions – x 8, x 14F, x 7F – same weight

Seated Db curl – x 8, x 13F, x 9F – same weight
Crucifix PD – x 8, x 12F, x 8F – Same weight

Flat bar curls SS V bar Push downs – x 15 – x 12F

Machine chest press – x 8, x 8, x 15F, x 11F, x 8F

little more volume across the session.

Felt great – no niggles

all meals in

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[Hilly]

Monday – not sure whats happended over the weekend.

Sat – Trained back in lloyds late as I was getting Arilena back early. Was a decent session obviously no weights logged but strength was good and defo up on the last time I trained back in there

Sunday was a rest day and full day with Arilena – We played in the garden and ten hit a farm for most of the day that had a themed festival thing on

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[Hilly]

Testing this is working as i seem to have lost my last couple of updates

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The change in tsh would indicate it’s real

Potentially it’s under dosed or you just don’t respond well or there is a deeper issue going on

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Also could you guess my bf here based on the front? This was back in the day with about 80kg. Legs were always leaner than upper body. Biggest fat storage are hips and lower abs.

https://i.postimg.cc/Wbdy9qyZ/temp-Image4-FIu5y.avif

Guess – 13-14%

But that’s nothing more than a guess.

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[Hilly]

Hey guys thank you again! Got the points. Thought about reading your texts before the workouts to make sure to progress.

Next question: During a cut, do you think prioritizing weaker muscle groups is helpful? Jordan mentioned on his stories how he would set up an upper if arms oder shoulder would be weak (mostly change the order to hit the weak ones fresh). Or not the right time? My perspective was, if this helps gaining, maybe it also helps when holding muscle is the most you can get (if cut reached its second half…).

I would always prioritise weaker body parts yes.

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AAS do not need to be kept in the fridge. This would be a bad idea.

Denis is right I imagine, However I have no issues personally leaving oil in a syringe for 4-7 days and do so often

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