[Hilly]

Cheers. Any particular dose if I’m taking 75 test e Monday, Wednesday and Friday and hgh 2iu daily.

SLU do you mean? 5-600mcg on wake

I would not add Eq – it will drive estradiol to low as it works extremely well at this in most. On this low dose of test I would favour using primo 1-200mg

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[Hilly]

E2 may well of been to high bud as the mast will not of prevented E2 from climbing to high when the testosterone dose went up

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Wed – Rest day

steps – 12k

meals in – 5

Nothing exciting to note today

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Looks sensible to me also – However Reta I would cap at 0.2 to 0.25mcg daily – I see no need for any more for any one TBH

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tuesday – Trained again which wont be the normal 3 days on the bounce its just to bring the current split in line.

6 meals will go in

steps will be 12-15k

Trained back – tendons felt a little sore but nothing major.

Again all listed are hard work sets and F means stopping right before I completely fail

Overhand wide grip pull down – x 8, x 8, x 8F
chest supported row – x 6, x6, x6F
Narrow grip PD to chest – x 8, x 8, x 8F
V grip cable row – x 12, x 10, x 8F

again I trained back on sat with a client so volume was a touch lower than it will normally be and exercises selection a tad different

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If that’s a ratio you made up that is working then stick with it for sure.

I see no point dropping Clen out due to half live tbh if it’s just a 1 day refeed

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It really depends on what you’re wanting to do.

Is the goal to be the best as you can while on this Trt set up.

If so then as Kuba says

Gh would be great for recovery

SLU PP for endurance

Mots C – energy and focus

Glow blend for recovery

All from pro forma. No impact in terms of toxicity on the body

If your wanting to move to a cycle n really push things then tapering up the testosterone and primo would really elevate things. However more steroids means more stress / toxicity to a point based on individual response

I ask this Purely out of ignorance, would increasing the test past say 200mg have negative effects on my cardiovascular output- with blood thickness etc especially with that amount of running

I used lance Armstrong old PED cycle as a guide to base mine one?

What would you push the test and primo too?

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In my own opinion taking a small step forward likely won’t no but as with all of this it’s very individual and thus I can’t predict you’re own response.

I’ve never ever had a block n thickness issue from any dose of AAS or compound.

Only time I ever had an issue was using cardarine and had to let blood for the first and only time.

I work with some high level cyclists and none have blood thickness issues from running full cycles etc.

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Monday – Busy day with Arilena today as per and this is going to get busier as we move into the summer holidays.

steps – 16k
meals in – 6

trained delts/chest – tendons again feeling better thank the lord.

All sets listed are work sets, Failure isnt to true failure but stopping when I cant get another rep. No grinding out reps etc

Standing side lateral machine – x8, 12F, x 10F, x 6F
Incline chest press machine – sets of 8 until I could not get 8 full reps and then stayed there for a set of 6
chest press machine – x 8, x 11F, x 7f, x 15F
pec dec – x 12, x 12F, x 10F, x 8F
DB laterals – x 15, x 12F, x 8F
Rope front raises – x 15F, x 11F, x 9f

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[Hilly]

Heaps of threads covering this bud for you to read up on.

Refeed signs

Performance drops hard

Weight loss stalls

0 pumps

Feeling beat up

Poor sleep

Feeling cold all the time.

Doesn’t need to be all of these either

How much is individual but in your case I’d do a rest day high day at circa 800g carbs then asses response

Thanks Peter,
I see people drop their step count during a refeed day. Should I actually be reducing mine from 15k and if I should reduce it, by how much roughly? Also, after the refeed day, what kind of scale weight change should I expect the next morning ?
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That decision is up to you. Some people simply can’t reduce steps.

Normally I’ll pull down to around 10k

Scale weight change is very very depending on what’s going on at the time with several other factors and what you see will dictate your next move.

In general you want to see the scale come up 1-3lb on average but lots of factors here. This is very generalised

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Also agree 2 is fine

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Personal preference really.

I do like to have all do a wide grip pull down and feel it’s needed for full development and gives a unique stretch effect to the back itself

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[Hilly]

Heaps of threads covering this bud for you to read up on.

Refeed signs

Performance drops hard
Weight loss stalls
0 pumps
Feeling beat up
Poor sleep
Feeling cold all the time.

Doesn’t need to be all of these either

How much is individual but in your case I’d do a rest day high day at circa 800g carbs then asses response

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Leaner you get more you will grow and longer you can offseason for, try to emotionally detach and just focus on getting as lean as possible without running into a binge pattern.

If your struggling diet break for a week bring calories back up by 800 daily from carbs only , reduce output for a week and get back to work after

Send pics on insta can’t see here

Fully agree with Kuba

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[Hilly]

It really depends on what you’re wanting to do.

Is the goal to be the best as you can while on this Trt set up.

If so then as Kuba says

Gh would be great for recovery
SLU PP for endurance
Mots C – energy and focus
Glow blend for recovery

All from pro forma. No impact in terms of toxicity on the body

If your wanting to move to a cycle n really push things then tapering up the testosterone and primo would really elevate things. However more steroids means more stress / toxicity to a point based on individual response

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I like justin harris approach and I find it works well for a super compensation effect on high days. Personally my own issue with it is when I use Humalog like that I feel super tired.

so I personally prefer lantus with meal 1 and then fast slin around training.

As you say its not a need your just looking at it to help push nutrient uptake and glycogen storage so additional levels. You’ll only know if its worth it when you try it 🙂

Thank you!

Would you say 5iu is a good “safe” start does for pre workout if there is about 100g carbs pre, 30intra and 100post ?

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Yes bud I would adjust the carbs and have 50 intra initially until you asses response of the set up

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